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The cheapest stocks and shares ISA on the market

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What is the cheapest stocks and shares ISA available? The investing world can be complicated, but this time we have a simple answer for you. Right now the cheapest stocks and shares ISA is the DIY option from InvestEngine.

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InvestEngine is the lowest cost stocks and shares ISA on the market because right now it costs nothing.

Zip! Nada!

Now that’s my kind of price range!

Read on for more about InvestEngine’s share ISA.

Cheap stocks and shares ISA hack news! If you’re interested in our investment ISA hack then there’s good news: iWeb Share Dealing has a special offer on. It has waived its usual £100 account opening charge until 30 June 2024. So you can sign-up for free, and take advantage of its zero platform charge thereafter. More on this below.

Cheapest stocks and shares ISA: good to knows

InvestEngine’s ISA costs zero for annual fees, dealing charges, FX fees, entry/exit levies and most of the other multi-headed investment costs that snap at our wallets like a financially-incentivised Hydra. (It’s little known that the Ancient Greek polycephalic snake-beast was on a bonus scheme. Fifty drachma per hero slain.)

The only costs you will pay are the usual Total Expense Ratio / Ongoing Charge management fees that must be borne when investing in any fund, plus trading spreads. So far, so standard.

The platform’s downside is that its range of ETFs is more restricted than costlier platforms, and you can only trade at fixed times per day.

Frankly though, I think that’s a reasonable trade-off. Especially because you can easily create a good investment portfolio from the ETFs available.

Read our full InvestEngine review. We like it. Just make sure you choose the DIY ISA, not the managed one.

Our only concern is how long can the service remain free?

We’ve previously investigated how zero commission brokers make their money. In InvestEngine’s case, it’s mostly hoping you’ll opt for its paid managed offering.

Cheapest stocks and shares ISA: alternative

The cheapest stocks and shares ISA runner-up is Trading 212. It too charges a big, fat zero for platform fees and trading commission. However it does levy a FX fee of 0.15% on transactions that involve foreign currency. (InvestEngine does not).

This piece explains how you can avoid FX fees using ETFs.

Some Trading 212 users also report paying higher bid-offer spreads on their trades than may be the case on other platforms.

It’s very hard for us to know if they’re right, but no platform can afford to offer its services for free. They all have to make money somehow.

Cheap stocks and shares ISA hack

What if InvestEngine’s prices creep up, or you don’t like its limited pool of ETFs, or want an alternative because you’re concerned about the FSCS investor compensation limit of £85,000?

In that event let’s recap our cheap stocks and shares ISA hack. It still delivers tax shelter satisfaction for an exceptionally low cost.

Here’s how the hack works:

  • You begin by drip-feeding into your stocks and shares ISA with the best-value percentage-fee broker on the market.
  • Once your ISA is full you transfer it to the cheapest flat-fee broker.
  • You don’t buy and sell your investments at the flat-fee broker. You only trade (for zero commission) on your percentage-fee platform.
  • In the new tax year, you open a fresh stocks and shares ISA with the percentage-fee broker.
  • Rinse and repeat.

You now enjoy a best-of-both worlds deal that takes advantage of the brokerage industry’s niche marketing strategies.

Percentage-fee platforms offer the best terms to small investors. They tend to rake it in once your account swells beyond £25,000 to £50,000. They’re relying on your inertia.

Flat-fee brokers offer good rates to large investors. They hope to make it up in trading fees. They’re relying on high rollers who treat their portfolios like a night at the casino.

You can arbitrage these cost models, provided you’re active in transferring your ISA and then near-comatose once you’ve parked it at your long-stay platform.

Cheap stocks and shares ISA hack in action

Vanguard Investor offers the cheapest percentage fee stocks and shares ISA.

It charges 0.15% on the value of your assets and zero for trading fees.1

Were you to drip-feed your ISA allowance in evenly (£1,666 every month), you’d pay approximately £16 in platform fees for the year.

Leave your assets with Vanguard forever though and it’d keep charging 0.15% until you hit its £375 cap – the point where your account has accumulated £250,000.

But you’re not going to hang around.

Instead, you transfer your ISA to the most convenient flat-fee platform for long-term stashing. There’s a few choices but the cheapest is X-O.co.uk when iWeb doesn’t have a special offer on.

X-O charges a quite reasonable £0 for platform fees.

Dealing commission is a much less competitive £5.95 a throw. But we’re not trading there so we plan to pay pretty much zero pounds to X-O.

Total cost of your stocks and shares ISA per year = £16. 

Not bad!

Just transfer your ISA from Vanguard when it’s full, or after you’ve paid in your last contribution during the current tax year.

Open a fresh stocks and shares ISA with Vanguard on new tax year day (6 April) while your old one is lodged with X-O, gratis.

Note that X-O doesn’t do funds. It does do ETFs though, so make sure your Vanguard portfolio only contains ETFs tradable at X-O before you transfer.

You don’t want to have to sell out of the market and then buy your portfolio again when it arrives at X-O.

Cheapest stocks and shares ISA comparisons

What are the cheapest stocks and shares ISA alternatives to X-O?

Next comes iWeb Share Dealing. It normally charges a one-off £100 to open an account. But your ISA platform fees are zero after that.

iWeb also charges £5 per trade, so its a little cheaper than X-O if it wasn’t for the signing-on fee. 

So it makes sense to pounce on iWeb’s current special offer: open a stocks and shares ISA (or a standard dealing account) and it will forget all about charging £100, so long as you are onboard by 30 June 2024.

There’s no apparent obligation to fund or trade in your new account. See the offer T&Cs. So even if you’ve opened a stocks and shares ISA elsewhere in the current tax year, you can still open an iWeb dealing account.

Once you’ve got your foot in the door, you can put the cheap stocks and shares ISA hack into action without having to pay £100.

Even if you’ve opened another type of ISA elsewhere this tax year (e.g. cash ISA or LISA), you can still activate a new stocks and shares ISA with iWeb.

Arguably, you can do so even if you’ve maxed out your annual ISA allowance, as iWeb don’t require you to fund your stocks and shares ISA with them.

But you can just as easily make this work with a dealing account. There’s no need to open a stocks and shares ISA if you don’t want to. (Remember, the hack entails transferring existing ISA holdings.)

If you miss the iWeb special offer then you could think about its account opening cost as £33.33 for three years and then nothing from year four on.

Any other options?

You’d expect to pay £36 a year for your investment ISA at Halifax Share Dealing.

Lloyds Share Dealing costs £40 for your ISA platform fee.

Trades cost extra at these brokers – but you do your buying and selling at Vanguard.

Sitting on a £20,000 investment ISA at Vanguard costs you £30 a year alone. Plus another £16 on top as you build up your current tax year’s ISA.

Still, the bottom line is that InvestEngine is the cheapest stocks and shares ISA. The Vanguard-X-O or iWeb combo places second in most scenarios if you make monthly trades.

The other downside with Vanguard is you’re restricted solely to its funds and ETFs. That’s okay though because it runs excellent, cost-competitive index trackers.

The other main compromise with X-O is its website is medieval (as is iWeb’s). Reviews on the likes of Trustpilot are distinctly average.

X-O and iWeb are bare bones offerings so don’t rock up expecting five-star customer service.

I’ve personally dealt with iWeb for many years and found it to be perfectly acceptable. Plenty of Monevator readers also get on fine with X-O.

Note: accounts held with Halifax / Bank Of Scotland, Lloyds Bank, and iWeb count as one for the purposes of the FSCS investment protection scheme.

Low-cost stocks and shares ISA: alternatives to Vanguard

You could replace the Vanguard leg of the hack with Dodl. That’s AJ Bell’s spin-off app-only brand.

Like Vanguard, Dodl charges 0.15% per annum in platform fees and nowt for trading.

However, your fees would be higher because Dodl charges a £12 minimum fee no matter how empty your account is.

It also features a restricted fund and ETF range, though it’s not Vanguard only.

Wombat is slightly cheaper again (0.1%, plus £12 acount minimum) but its ETF list is extremely limited.

Close Brothers is your next stop among the percentage-fee brokers. It charges a 0.25% platform fee and zero commission for funds. ETF trades are £9 a pop, with no mercy for regular investors.

If you hate the idea of filling in transfer forms then you can make the entire hack work at a slightly higher cost at Fidelity:

  • Buy funds monthly for zero trading fees while racking up platform fees at 0.35% per annum.
  • Once you hit the breakeven point, sell your funds and buy as few ETFs as possible to reconstitute your portfolio at £10 a trade.
  • Fidelity caps ETF fees at £90 per year.

Using this scheme, there’s no need to worry about which year’s ISA you’re transferring. The entire dosey-doe happens within your Fidelity stocks and shares ISAs.

It works because Fidelity act as a percentage-fee/zero commission broker with funds, and a flat-fee broker with ETFs.

Check out our comparison of ETFs vs index funds.

Tidying up the loose ends

All the cheap stocks and shares ISA options laid out above handle ISA transfers free of charge. Though X-O levies an exit fee should you decide to leave. (iWeb does not).

You need to transfer your investments in specie (so they’re not sold to cash) to avoid paying dealing fees to your flat fee broker at the other end.

In Specie or re-registration transfers mean you don’t have to worry about being out of the market either.

Check your new broker offers the same funds and ETFs as your old one.

Invest in accumulation funds and ETFs from the beginning. This will save you paying to reinvest dividends at the flat-rate broker.

I’ve ignored rebalancing costs once you’re all parked up at your cheap platform. A small investor should be able to rebalance with new money. Anyone with an embarrassment of riches can set their rebalancing alarm to once every two or three years. That gives you just as good a chance of being up on the deal as any other rebalancing method.

Or you could invest everything in a Vanguard LifeStrategy fund if you’re not at X-O (which is ETF only). LifeStrategy is a multi-asset fund that takes care of rebalancing for you.

Either way, rest assured this manoeuvre does not contravene the stocks and shares ISA rules:

  • You can have as many stocks and shares ISAs as you like, so long as you don’t put new money into more than one per tax year.
  • Transferring old ISA money or assets does not use up your ISA allowance for the current tax year or break the one-type-of-ISA-a-tax-year rule. 
  • So every tax year, you can open a new ISA at the percentage-fee broker, and ship last year’s ISA to the flat-free broker.
  • You can transfer any amount of your previous years’ ISA’s value. You can transfer the whole lot into one ISA, or transfer a portion of it into several ISAs, or any other combo you desire.

For more on stocks and shares ISA transfers.

To calculate your cheapest platform option.

Our broker comparison table tracks the UK’s best platforms.

Cost shavings

If you truly want the cheapest stocks and shares ISA possible then you’ll need to factor in the cost of the low-cost index funds and ETFs available on any platform versus those available through Vanguard.

Paying slightly higher OCFs than necessary could overwhelm your platform fee / dealing fee savings. Be especially vigilant if you have a very large portfolio.

None of this takes into account the value of your time spent filling in forms. Although when you’re getting this anal then maybe that’s a net positive. (A person’s gotta have a hobby!)

Take it steady,

The Accumulator

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Weekend reading: the write stuff

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What caught my eye this week.

There are always a bunch of stories in The Financial Times worth including in Weekend Reading. Unlike most of the online media landscape – see the mini-special in the links below – the subscriber-funded FT goes from strength to strength.

Of course like anyone who believes their favourite outlet is unbiased, I guess the FT confirms all mine.

Free but regulated markets: good. A social contract and welfare state: fine too.

This stuff should be obvious by now, but apparently it’s not.

Brexit bad, obviously. But even better the FT isn’t signed up to the omertà code that apparently prevents others admitting the whole thing is a costly crock, whether out of fear of annoying Blimp-ish readers, politicians, proprietors – or all three.

A wolf with teeth

Here’s veteran economics commentator Martin Wolf on fine form this week on the bitter lessons of Brexit [search result]:

In sum, this supposed liberation has greatly curtailed the freedom of many millions of people on both sides.

Whose freedom has it increased? That of British politicians. They can act more freely than they could when bound by EU rules.

What have they done with this freedom? They have lied about (or, worse, failed to understand) what they agreed over the Northern Ireland Protocol. They have threatened to break international law. They even proposed eliminating thousands of pieces of legislation inherited from EU membership, regardless of the consequences.

These people have, in sum, destroyed the country’s reputation for good sense, moderation and decency. All this is a natural result of the classic populist blend of paranoia, ignorance, xenophobia, intolerance of opposition and hostility to constraining institutions.

Take that, Torygraph.

Whose history is it, anyway

But the main reason I love the FT – and I’m a paid-up subscriber – is its business and markets coverage. Not perfect, but at the least not reliably clueless like the competition.

In large part that’s down to its specialist journalists. A species that’s in danger of becoming extinct.

The world is moving to a model where we hear directly from sector experts for information and opinion, without any savvy writer as an intermediary. (Clue is in the word, eh?) Think X/Twitter, YouTube, blogs. This has pros and cons, but so did having a professional writer work the same beat for decades.

On that score I enjoyed John Plender’s lessons from a lifetime in investment yesterday [search result].

When I started learning about investing I read about Ross Goobey – the guru who transformed the Imperial Tobacco pension scheme – all the time. I wonder how many have heard of him now? Plender writers:

So great were the returns that Imperial enjoyed pension contribution holidays for years.

Other institutional investors followed suit by dropping gilts in favour of ordinary shares. Ross Goobey was credited with founding what came to be known as ‘the cult of the equity’.

Perhaps it doesn’t matter. The article’s point is partly that markets change. The globalisation of history and perspective has been part of all that.

Still it’s a bit of a shame that investing lore in the UK has become so American-ised.

Holy Taxman, Batman!

Finally, the FT has fun as only insiders can do, through its FT Alphaville blog-like section.

This week’s romps included a deep dive into HMRC vs action figures: the face off [search result] – a battle about what constitutes a human.

The language wouldn’t be out of place in an absurdist drama:

Are the people in Game of Thrones people?

It’s a question most of us probably don’t ever think about, but that might just come up if you’re a judge.

It quickly gets bonkers – “The character is a powerful mutant who is able to control magnetism through which he manipulates metal objects. This is a superpower which human beings do not have. The figure represents a non-human creature” – but I don’t want to overdo the quoting.

Enjoy!

Will we pay for it?

As per the mini-special in the links below, the media landscape is imploding.

Ads long ago ruined websites via the incentive of clickbait desperately stirred up to try and tempt crumbs of traffic away from social platforms. Google, Meta, and TikTok take most of the money anyway. People under 30 mostly watch video.

Again, does it matter? I guess we’ll soon find out.

I suspect it does, and even that there’s becoming almost a moral case for paying for at least one or two media outlets you’d like to see survive. I’m biased – we have our own dog in the game – but I’ve also put my money where my mouth is with the FT and others and I’m rarely disappointed.

Have a great weekend.

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We review the Freetrade UK treasury bill service

Update: Since this article was written, Freetrade has enabled Treasury Bills to also be bought in its ISA and SIPP. These tax shelters enable a tax-free return, and buying and holding in Treasury Bills within them negates the major drawback discussed in our piece below. We’ll hopefully get a chance to update this article in the future!

Investment broker Freetrade* has launched an intriguing new place to stash your cash: UK treasury bills.

Forget boring old bank accounts and say “meh!” to money market funds.

After the bond fails of 2022, maybe UK treasury bills can offer a safe refuge for your dough while offering a tasty yield?

How does Freetrade’s UK treasury bill service work?

Freetrade is offering investors the facility to purchase 28-day maturity Treasury bills. 

Treasury bills are short-term government debt obligations issued by the UK’s Debt Management Office. 

They count as low-risk securities because they’re backed by the UK Government. As long as the government can repay its loans, then your capital will be returned when your treasury bills mature – plus a little extra for your trouble in the shape of the yield. 

You don’t have to worry about capital losses either. That’s because Freetrade won’t let you sell your bills before maturity. 

Which means Freetrade’s Treasury bill service effectively acts like a savings account with a 28-day fixed-rate. 

But as always, the devil is in the detail. Let’s go find him. 

Buying Treasury bills

The Freetrade UK Treasury bills service operates as a separate account alongside your usual ISA, SIPP, and trading account choices. 

This means your Treasury bill holdings aren’t shielded from tax. (See the tax section below for more.)

You can buy fresh Treasury bills every week when Freetrade participates in the DMO’s Friday auctions. 

The minimum order amount is £50.

You’ll discover if your order is fulfilled and the exact yield you’ll earn the following week. Both those outcomes depend on how the DMO auction pans out. 

As each block of bills you own matures, your capital will be returned along with the yield earned as a cash cherry on top. 

Your money will then be automatically reinvested at the next auction date. 

You can switch off the auto-reinvest setting (or change the amount invested) if you don’t want to lock-up all your loot for another month – though this has implications for your yield. 

Treasury bill yields

The amount you earn on each tranche of Treasury bills depends on the yield they achieved at auction. 

That yield is ultimately a function of the Bank of England interest rate plus market supply and demand for ultra-short UK government debt. 

The DMO publishes treasury bill yields achieved. This can give you a feel for how competitive rates are. 

In practice, yields for one-month bills closely track the prevailing Bank Rate. You can also see that the yields shift as market participants anticipate the Bank of England’s interest rate decisions.  

Yields are quoted as annualised yields. That is, they represent the return you’d make if you held the bill for one-year and compounded the proceeds at the same yield. 

This yield figure can be compared against the Annual Equivalent Rate (AER) offered by a bank account. 

However, your Treasury bills mature after 28 days, not a year. So £1,000 of bills earning a 5% yield won’t earn £50 upon redemption.

Instead, after 28 days, you’ll earn:

£1,000 x 0.051 x 28 / 365 = £3.84

Thus your £1,000 pays out £3.84 after 28 days earning a 5% yield. 

Are Treasury bill yields better than easy-access savings rates? 

The one-month Treasury bill yield beat the best easy-access savings accounts at times throughout the last year. But at other times it fell behind, or there was nothing in it. 

When assessing Treasury bills versus savings accounts, the main negatives are:

  • Treasury bills bought via Freetrade lock-up your cash for a month at a time. 
  • Bills can’t be tax-sheltered in Freetrade’s ISAs or SIPPs
  • Freetrade is set to charge fees from April that’ll knock from 0.1% to 0.45% off your yield. 

Despite these drawbacks, there is still good reason to consider Treasury bills.

Being a rate tart is a drag. Life is too short to spend on keeping up with best-buy tables, and the micro-frictions of account switching. 

Instead you can be satisfied you’ll probably earn a competitive short-term yield with Treasury bills due to the weekly auction process. 

And so you could settle. Keeping some of your spare cash in bills and auto-reinvesting so it’s always working reasonably hard. 

Are Treasury bill yields better than money market fund rates? 

A quick eyeball of current yields for money market funds suggests there’s little to choose between them and one-month Treasury bills. 

The 12 January Treasury bill tender bagged an average yield of 5.18%. That stacks up against one-day yields of 5.17% to 5.33% for our sample of sterling money market funds. 

In both cases, you’ll need to deduct platform fees – and Freetrade’s percentage fee could be costly if you intend to hold large sums in bills. 

You’d also need to deduct the money market fund’s Ongoing Charge and any trading costs. 

On balance I’d expect a money market fund’s yield to share the ongoing ‘best buy’ competitiveness of Treasury bill payouts. So that’s a wash. 

Rather, the upside of Treasury bills versus money market funds is that bills are less risky and more transparent.

We have previously explained the risks with money market funds. For one they typically hold more corporate debt than you might think given their ‘cash-like’ reputation.  

Meanwhile, the main upside of money market funds is they’re easy access and they can be stashed in your tax shelters. 

UK Treasury bill taxation

UK Treasury bill profits are taxable as income

Your yield isn’t paid as interest though. 

Treasury bills are classified as ‘deeply discounted securities’ (DDS) for the purpose of taxation. 

That is, you buy them at a discount to their face value. For example, you may buy £100 worth of bills for £99.60. 

You’ll then receive the full £100 face value when the bills mature. The profit you make from the price uplift represents your yield – around 5% in this case. 

Information on Treasury bill taxation is scanty to say the least. The DMO says:

Although Treasury bills have the same credit risk as gilts – they are sterling denominated unconditional obligations of the UK government – they are not classified as gilts for taxation purposes. Because of this they are covered by the taxation rules which apply to deeply discounted securities. In essence, these specify that if an instrument is issued at a discount of more than 0.5% of its redemption price, (multiplied by the period of a year represented by the maturity of the instrument) they are captured by the deep discount taxation regime. So any profit made by an individual as a result of buying this bill would be charged to income tax as income when realised (i.e. when the bill redeems or is sold on).

HMRC’s tax manual for deeply discounted securities awaits you here. Abandon all hope! 

Monevator reader Roland has pointed us to the Income Tax Act 2007 section 18 which includes profits from deeply discounted securities in its definition of ‘savings income’. 

So it would seem that Treasury bill income can be protected by tax deflectors such as the personal savings allowance and the starting rate for savings. See subsection 3cAn HMRC admin also claims the personal savings allowance does apply.

As always it’s best to consult a tax professional if you’re in doubt.

This isn’t a product widely traded by the general public so no wonder consumer-friendly guidance on the tax position is thin on the ground. 

Freetrade could do its customers a service by stepping into the vacuum and writing up a definitive guide with the help of HMRC or a firm of tax experts.  

As mentioned, Freetrade doesn’t currently enable you to tuck away Treasury bills in SIPPs or ISAs. If that was solved then you wouldn’t have to worry about tax in the first place. 

Risk protection 

Treasury bills are backed by the UK Government. You can assume a default is highly unlikely. 

Intriguingly, the Bank of England’s page on Treasury bills says:

In law it is neither a bill of exchange nor a promissory note, because, being a charge on a particular fund-the Consolidated Fund of the United Kingdom – it is not an unconditional order, or promise, to pay. But the condition of payment implied in the wording of a Treasury Bill, which is only that the Consolidated Fund should be able to meet the payment at maturity, is probably no great deterrent to holders. 

The Consolidated Fund is the Government’s bank account at the Bank of England. (I assume they get breakdown insurance with that.)

This being the UK rather than the US, our system tends to work based on convention and because it always has, rather than because there’s a solemn guarantee tattooed on the Rouge Dragon Pursuivant or written on parchment somewhere…

Are Treasury bills more bombproof than a bank account? It’s easy to assume that the government must sit above a commercial bank in the hierarchy of the national interest. That the QE printing press would always whir to meet short-term debt obligations. 

But governments do default. The UK has defaulted in the past. Our credit rating has been downgraded since the Great Recession, though we’re no basket-case obviously. 

Meanwhile, too-big-to-fail banks were nationalised last time the system buckled in 2008.

And the systemic importance of ensuring people don’t starve probably means that regular old cash is well-protected by the State, up to a point. 

Overall I’m doubtful that opting for Treasury bills amounts to a meaningful advance in risk reduction compared to cash – so long as you stay under the FSCS £85,000 bank deposit limit with the latter. 

The weakest link

On that tip, the FSCS £85,000 investor protection limit applies to Freetrade

If the platform went insolvent, and there was a problem recovering the full balance of your account, then you’d be eligible for £85,000 worth of compensation

This is the main risk to consider when you think about how safe your cash is in UK Treasury bills held with Freetrade

Freetrade UK Treasury bills vs other cash park options

Alright, it’s time to sum up the attractions of Treasury bills versus other cash options:

  Easy access Fixed term Fee (%) Tax-free? Default risk
Treasury bills No 28 days 0.1 – 0.45** No Government, broker
Bank account Yes Yes 0 ISA Bank
Money market funds Yes No 0.1 + platform and trading fee ISA and SIPP Fund provider, broker
Premium bonds Yes No 0 Yes Government

** Fee charged from April. Freetrade’s Standard and Plus customers pay 0.1% per annum and Basic customers pay 0.45%. Freetrade don’t charge trading fees.

Whether Treasury bills leap off this table as your latest must-have asset or not, Freetrade is still to be congratulated for offering retail investors a potentially useful defensive option.

There’s no good reason why the UK public shouldn’t be able to invest in Treasury bills.

And bills fulfil the brief of a decent cash proxy: low-risk, low-volatility, and with little chance of leaving your money to rot on an uncompetitive interest rate. 

But there are issues too – mainly the corrosive impact of fees and taxes. 

Right now Treasury bills are a niche product, but if Freetrade can solve the lack of tax shelter access (especially for SIPPs) then there’s a role for the asset as a money market alternative for the bond shy.   

Take it steady,

The Accumulator

*Freetrade links at the time of posting are affiliate links. Such referrals may earn us a small commission if you choose to sign-up. This hard capitalistic reality hasn’t affected anything we’ve written here though.

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Weekend reading: Trigger warning for FIRE fans

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What caught my eye this week.

Charlie Munger used to say that to be really sure of our convictions, we must be able to argue the opposite side.

If you agree and you’re a fan of early retirement, then get yourself a glass of whiskey and/or a couple of Ibuprofen and buckle up to digest the anti-FIRE message loud and clear.

Because this week Jared Dillian of the punchily-named We’re Gonna Get Those Bastards blog took on The FIRE Movement:

Joe graduates from college and gets a job in the cube farm for $80,000 a year. He gets the cheapest apartment possible, rides a bike instead of driving, and eats ramen noodles.

He does this for ten years, saving up to 70% of his income, and investing it in low-cost index funds. At the end of ten years, he has a million or so saved up, more if he is lucky. At that point, he retires to play the guitar or paint happy little trees, and gradually draws down his savings over time.

If the stock market keeps going up as planned, he can stay retired for 50 more years, and get really good at guitar.

This the fucking stupidest thing I have ever heard of in my life.

I enjoyed the post, but then I often link to Dillian’s writing. He swears a lot and takes no prisoners – but hey, it worked for Quentin Tarantino.

Also, I don’t consider feisty articles uploaded into the void as a personal attack, which helps.

But of course there’s a lot that’s wrong in Dillian’s FIRE1 summary.

Nobody serious in ‘the movement’ uses a 12% expected return to underwrite their financial futures, as he claims.

Indeed, when outside-the-movement pundit Dave Ramsey suggested something similar recently, FIRE elders took him to pieces. As for The Accumulator, he is downright parsimonious.

More subjectively, Dillian’s take on whether and why people would pursue a FIRE-forward lifestyle is hyperbolic, and his love of consumption culture seems archaic to me.

That’s okay. We all think differently, and our views evolve too.

Monevator began life as a blog championing early retirement, but I don’t actually believe it’s a good idea for most anymore. We debated the pros and cons a while ago.

However I do love and cherish financial independence. And for me that wouldn’t have been possible if I’d lived life the way Dillian describes.

Know your enemies

It’s good to be challenged, so have a read of the whole article. He makes a couple of fair points as he sprays his gun around. Even if he’s targeting some of the least objectionable people you can imagine.

Where do I agree with him?

Well, I do think someone should probably change jobs if they’re that unhappy, rather than slogging it out for two decades on the prospect of a grand escape.

I also doubt whether most deeply unhappy people will be made happier by having more time to sit around thinking about it. There’s probably something else going on.

Finally, I don’t believe a 50-year long retirement – as in never working for money again – is optimal. In my observation though few truly early FIRE-ees actually end up never working again anyway.

You may think differently. Jared Dillian does. And again, that’s all fine.

One huge virtue of the FIRE concept is it’s not trying to change anybody else’s world. Your politics might have made our country poorer and my holidays more of a hassle. But your savings rate is your own affair. It hurts me not a jot.

Where some see solipsism in FIRE, I see humility and the serenity prayer.

I guess that sounds boring and worthy, and not half as much fun as swearing. Dillian’s post is more entertaining. No doubt it boosted his website traffic.

But you know what else is entertaining?

Being free to do whatever you want to with your weekdays before you’re 50. And not having to care what anybody else – boss, random blogger, or brother-in-law – thinks about it.

Have a great weekend!

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