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Bankers get short thrift in post-apocalyptic storytelling. As our heroes sit around a wasteland campfire – burning dollar bills for warmth and one-upping each other with reminiscences about air travel and chicken nuggets and being able to breathe without a respirator – no-one ever says:

“Oh, and let’s remember the bankers. How I miss those guys!”

I mean, perhaps the bankers brought it on themselves?

Either way, we might soon discover how much we miss banks as we know them, if the latest AI-will-eat-your-hamster scare stories come true.

That’s because ever since the launch of Meta’s Muse AI agent a few weeks ago, people have been fretting about what will happen if when everyone has their own personal life-optimiser.

Picture a 24/7 digital slave working tirelessly to get you the best deals for your money, and freeing up more time for you to loaf on the sofa scrolling through cat videos.

It’ll be like having your own Robo Martin Lewis! Only instead of “dead or alive you’re coming with me” it’ll be more “pay me 5% interest or boost my air miles, otherwise I’m out the door.”

In such a war on the status quo, the High Street banks – big beneficiaries of what my co-blogger The Accumulator has generously called the superpower of human inertia – would be among the first to fall.

Agent on it

Remember: you and I are exceptional. We read personal finance blogs, watch our pennies, nurture our savings, and invest in low-cost index funds for the long-term.

But there are many other people out there who move through their financial lives with all the efficiency of a sloth jogging through treacle.

I’m not even talking about those who treat a 26.5% credit card charge for last month’s spending spree as a cost of business – let alone those with no money at all.

No, I mean the could’ve-been millionaires next door. The ones who don’t save or invest wisely, are tardy about remortgaging, and never make their spare change work harder for them.

For instance, a recent estimate found there’s £327bn sitting unproductively in bank accounts that pay less than 1.5% interest on savings.

Seriously?

2019 called and it wants its near-zero rate environment back.

24/7 banking

To be fair, I imagine most of those billions are made up of a few quid here and there. There can’t be many five-figure cash piles sitting around in a typical current account earning next to nothing, can there? (Or am I just hopelessly naive?)

I mean, even I’ve left a few hundred quid in a half-forgotten account for a time. We all lead busy lives. Those cat videos won’t watch themselves.

But what if you didn’t have to keep on top of any of this stuff anyway, because your personal AI agent could move your money for you?

All you’d do is mutter a suitable prompt –“Hey AI Marty, round up all my loose cash from my old bank accounts and stick it somewhere lucrative, but not at Betfair like you did last month because we’ve talked about that” – and now you’re making hay.

Meanwhile your legacy bank is making, well, nada.

You don’t need a super-intelligence to see that your money is better served in the challenger accounts to the left in the graphic below than the status quo offerings on the right:

Source: Apollo

True, moving a few quid out of a near-dormant account you only opened for a three-month 2% bonus five years ago won’t have JP Morgan’s Jamie Dimon quaking in his loafers.

But £300 here and £300 there across the entire population?

Soon you’re talking real money.

Block and tackle

The Financial Times ran the numbers for the US banks and – I hope you’re sitting down Jamie – it found that making all that idle cash work harder could cost the banking sector $500bn.

Yes, that’s billion with a ‘b’ for “Bugger!”

If you’re a banker.

To be clear, that’s not $500bn in lost income. Rather, it’s the hit to bank valuations should the $20 trillion in US bank accounts always goes to where it’s treated better, and hence profits fall.

But it’s likely a high estimate, because the banks won’t go down without a fight.

Who knows, perhaps they will respond with truly wonderful higher-value products that rightly earn their spread by giving excellent value to us customers?

Or maybe they’ll just block AI agents from accessing their bank accounts.

You won’t be surprised to learn which approach the banks have gone for first.

Although to be fair, if I ran a bank I’d want to keep any autonomous agent created by Mark Zuckerberg at arm’s length, too.

At least until it had learned its lessons first with someone else’s money.

Agents everywhere

Banning agents won’t be a long-term solution though, if agents really do proliferate. It’d be like banning phone calls, and insisting customers bring their passbooks to their local branch to withdraw their money.

In fact this parallel can go further, to the online and app-only bank accounts that for years have offered higher rates than on the High Street, leaving offline customers missing out.

Similarly, if powerful and trustworthy AI agents do work and spread as promised, then you’ll need to use them just to keep up with the Jones’ savings.

Abstaining won’t be costless.

Forget-me-not finance

Indeed it’s all a bit daunting if you play forward the consequences of agents everywhere.

Obviously nobody around these parts will complain if AI makes it effortless to get the highest interest rate on cash. Nor if personal finance agents invest someone’s monthly savings into a diversified passive portfolio faster than they can say: “I wonder if it’s time to buy Bitcoin?”

And on a related note, shares of media firms like The New York Times and Spotify fell after the Muse launch, on the grounds that in the agent era, nobody will pay for subscriptions they’ve forgotten about. (Something that never happens with Monevator membership, I hope…)

Gyms could suffer too if customers are reminded by their AI agent in March that they’re still paying for the good intentions of January – even though the only deadlift they’ve done since February was hoiking two party-sized boxes of Krispy Kremes onto the kitchen counter.

An AI agent won’t forget. What’s more it’ll go through all your bills, without getting bored or flagging, to keep checking you’re still into all your standing orders staying that way.

Know what you’re not doing

On the face of it then, promising stuff.

Though perhaps it could spell doom for personal finance and investing outlets like Monevator?

Already we are being choked off by AI-powered excerpts in Google that mean people don’t need to visit our actual articles so often for answers. 1

I must admit that the possibility of AI ‘making it irrelevant for anyone to know how to manage their money because an agent does it all for them’ isn’t something that came up during my SWOT strategy sessions.

But actually, I don’t quite believe this is an extinction-level threat for us.

Consider driving as an analogy. It’s one thing not to understand how a car works. But you still need to know where you want to go to use a car properly.

Similarly, AI agents could well remove much of the legwork from managing money.

But that will leave more time for us all to think about our big picture financial independence planning and other higher-order matters.

Well, hopefully.

Costs and consequences

I also have some doubts about how far this agent revolution can run.

For one thing, there’s the privacy aspect.

I do appreciate that half the population is already living in their own opt-in Truman Show every day online.

But there’s a difference between carefully curating a social media image for the world, and letting a Californian oligarch gate-keep every penny that passes through your bank account.

We can also expect companies to fight back against any AI-enabled consumer empowerment.

Banning agents is only the crude first response. It will soon give way to packaging services in such a way that it’s even harder to unpick where you’re profiting and where a company benefits.

That’s a wrap

Consider an all-in package like Amazon Prime, for example.

By bundling together free shipping, video streaming, advertising, discounted movie tickets, and more, Prime turns pricing its services into more of a ‘vibe check’.

Your AI agent might tell you such a bundle is not worth the money. But faced with the right warm and fuzzy overall proposition, you might not believe it – or even care.

Less nefariously, the US wholesale grocer Costco has millions of fans who pay annually for the right to shop in its stores.

Costco members never tire of telling you about the bargains they get. Yet Costco has somehow still grown into a $445bn behemoth, so it’s making money somewhere.

And then there are those ever-looming existential issues.

True, the agent version of AI Armageddon doesn’t unleash backyard bioweapons upon us, let alone a Terminator.

But AI agents with the best of intentions could still be plenty disruptive.

Paging Adam Smith

What happens, say, when tens of billions of AI agents are all running around chasing the same products at the lowest prices, at the same time?

Capitalism breaks, perhaps?

An article in The Atlantic quotes the Wharton School professor Rory Van Loo:

“If, all of a sudden, people could purchase whatever they wanted at the lowest price with the perfect ability to see every possible option, there’d be a lot of volatility in the world. It would seem highly efficient from an economic standpoint, but it could have devastating effects.”

Picture one million personal agents all switching their consumers to a new brand of paper towels on Amazon because a markdown made them three cents cheaper.

The same Sweetgreen salad is $18 one week and $38 the next. Your electric bill is $150 one month and $450 the month after, and you’re uncertain with each payment whether your local utility is about to go bankrupt.

“Stocks are bought and sold fast; markets change and plummet – such that we have a stop button for it, because it can go off the rails,” Van Loo noted. “But we don’t have those kinds of protections in most other markets.”

I imagine straight sticker prices could eventually converge – because any retailer deviating from the current market norm would get no customers. The agents would just go elsewhere.

In such a world, the same model of toaster selling for different prices in different shops might seem as odd as if £10 in London was worth £20 in Glasgow.

This might sound utopian. But as The Atlantic points out, collateral damage could show up all over the place.

Including – to return to where we started – in banking.

Credit Crisis 2.0

Anyone over 40 who is reading this website will remember the queues outside Northern Rock during the Great Financial Crisis.

Customers of Northern Rock feared it might not be able to give them their savings back if the situation got worse. So they decided to jump the gun and take their money out, pronto:

The next bank run might not wear a comfy cardigan

This is essentially how all bank runs work. But at least in the old days you had to schlep down to the local branch with a bank statement to wave around – or to keep hitting refresh on a web browser to log into an overburdened home page – to do your bit to make the situation worse.

But AI agents can do this stuff in the blink of an eye. As a result, billions – trillions – could slosh from one bank to another, driven by whatever factor the agents deem most important.

Sure, that should be to secure better interest rates in the calm times.

But perhaps the agents too would be moved by rumours and miscommunications during the next global credit crisis, just like everyday humans but on industrial strength steroids. Banks could go bust on the back of a well-timed tweet.

Could that be prevented? Of course – banks could insist on minimum time lock-ups to gate much more of our money.

But this undoes the promise of that frictionless AI revolution. And if some banks opt out, then they might quickly amass the money of the others. The incentives are mind-bending.

You can see how it could all spiral in very unpredictable ways – and fast.

Buy now, pay later

Nearly four years on from the launch of ChatGPT, it seems to me that AI is following the template set by other revolutionary technologies and the futurist Roy Amara’s famous dictum:

We tend to overestimate the effect of a technology in the short run and underestimate the effect in the long run.

Maybe agents will never be reliable enough for true mass adoption. Tech-savvy nerds enjoy figuring out why their automated shopping assistant ordered five tons of horse manure to be dumped on their front lawn. Normal people just want things to work.

But if agents do eventually get inserted into all our transactions – and civilisation is brought to its knees because we cut human bankers out of the loop – then consider yourself warned.

Saving the bankers won’t draw many recruits to a Butlerian Jihad anytime soon.

Besides, before we can have a backlash against the AIs, we must fully lash ourselves to their masts.

But it does make you wonder if getting a higher interest rate while you sleep will ultimately prove to be worth it.

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Why you can’t avoid risk when investing

Lots of dice bouncing around to symbolise lots of different risks at play

Risk is a tricky word to pin down. Some people might say “riding a bicycle on the road is too risky” or “I only have a cash ISA because shares are too risky”. Others will think those views are silly.

There isn’t a clear line between risky and acceptable. It’s a personal question of what you feel able to tolerate.

When it comes to investing, people fixate on the risks of the stock market:

  • What if the market crashes?
  • Will I get the return I expected?
  • How much can I draw down from investments each year without running out of money?

Those are all valid concerns. But they are far from the only risks out there.

What’s more, if you spend too much time focusing on just one risk then you are liable to make poor decisions.

As The Investor wrote years ago in The first law of thermodynamics and investing risk:

“Investing risk cannot be created or destroyed. It can only be transformed from one form of risk to another.”

So what’s risky for you? That’s for you to decide.

Risky business

Many kinds of risks are familiar both to bankers and to freelance writers penning personal finance articles.

The risk of not getting paid, for instance.

But there are also more specialist ones from the world of finance that are worth us thinking about. These include:

  • Market risk – the possibility that you don’t get the returns you were expecting, whether due to performance, interest rates, currencies, or commodity swings
  • Credit or counterparty risk – someone else can’t pay you back
  • Liquidity risk – when you can’t buy and sell assets as quickly as you’d like
  • Operational risk – what happens if the day-to-day running of your business stops working properly?

These map quite easily across to personal finance:

  • Market risk – when you don’t get the returns you were expecting
  • Credit or counterparty risk – if the bank or broker you’re using goes bust, are you covered?
  • Liquidity risk – relying on antique coins for emergencies? They might take a while to convert to cash
  • Operational risk – what if you accidentally sell your entire portfolio when you’re half-asleep, swiping on your phone, or you lose your passwords?

These risks all sound clear enough, at least in theory. But other risks are more subtle.

With enough risks, no target is high enough

Maisie wants to retire early. She already has £1,000,000 in her stocks and shares ISA – invested in a global shares ETF – and her budgeting software informs her she spends £30,000 per year. 

After Maisie reads The Accumulator’s musings about the UK safe withdrawal rate, she realises that she can retire immediately, withdrawing 3.1% of her portfolio each year.

Great stuff!

But then Maisie tells some folk about her excitement on the Internet.

“Ah,” says EternalPessimist28, “but what if you live for another 50 years? You’ll need a bigger portfolio.”

“And what if you need a care home?” interjects LondonStockBroker. “You should be modelling for £100,000 spending per year after turning 80 to cover that.”

Maisie sighs deeply, and goes back to work for another decade.

Finding the balance

From a purely financial perspective, putting more years in might be the right move for Maisie.

But life is about more than just finances.

What if in the following decade, Maisie’s partner passes away? Or she develops a health condition related to her stressful job?

Clearly it’s not a good idea to retire without enough money invested. But waiting until you’ve minimised market-related risks could well increase your exposure to these other kinds of risks.

A little list of risks

Let’s dive into a few of these less commonly discussed uncertainties.

Risk TypeWhat is it?How to mitigate
Sequence of returnsOnce you stop earning, multiple years of negative returns can hammer your portfolio’s valueBuild up a bigger pot, withdraw less, or return to work. Take steps before it happens
Cognitive declineIf your mental capacity starts to decline, you could make poor decisions or fall victim to a scamWork with a financial advisor, explore annuities, and set up power of attorney before you need it
Sentimentality / rigidityHanging onto strategies that worked before in the hope that they’ll work again or continue to work forever. For example, waiting for a new NFT boomMaintaining an open mind and re-evaluating your strategies and performance every so often, or paying for advice
LongevityPlanning your retirement funds on the assumption that you’ll die by a specific dateRemember that life expectancy is heavily impacted by your current age. Plan to last for more years than average
Forced early retirementYour health might force you to retire early, or a redundancy later in your career could prove hard to come back fromConsider critical illness and income protection insurance. Don’t rely on your salary continuing indefinitely
FamilyPrincipally divorce, but could also include caring for and supporting children more than expected, which could increase costs and reduce capitalDon’t lecture your other half about types of risk. Buy them something nice
One more year syndromeIf you get completely obsessed about mitigating risk, then you’ll never retireTry not to worry so much

It’s worth taking the time to write out all of the risks that might impact you.

Are you weighting all of them in the same way? Are there others that you’ve forgotten about, or that you’ve deliberately swept under the carpet because they’re too painful to think about?

Or is there perhaps a risk that keeps you awake at night, when it’s really no more threatening than the other risks on your list?

Risk is not all the same

I find it crazy how some people dedicate most of their financial planning to market risk, and then barely give any thought to issues such as longevity, life insurance, or how much they should trust their broker.

You’ll read personal essays going into thousands of words about how somebody plans to minimise the risk of withdrawing too much from their portfolio – adjusting based on various market signals and statistics.

But then a day later the same author will confidently assert that everyone should invest 100% of their portfolio into equities and that nobody needs an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA).

That’s not to say that you can’t invest 100% of your wealth in equities, or that you need an IFA.

You do you.

Rather, the point is that people can get hyper-fixated on certain specific risks, which sometimes seems to crowd out the attention they might give to others.

Rushing roulette

Consider somebody who focuses every day on maximising the amount they put into their ISAs, but who suffers a serious injury and has to quit work. They will surely regret having skipped income protection insurance in order to slip an extra £50 into the ISA each month.

Or take someone who strips their expenditure back to the absolute bone so they can retire in a decade, when they plan to withdraw just 2% of their portfolio each year.

In theory they’ve put their finances on a solid track to FIRE. But if their spouse and kids hate living on Pot Noodles and wearing clothes from Oxfam, the retirement plan may collapse after a couple of years as divorce looms.

Alternatively, you might deal with one risk and forget about all the others.

I once spoke to an underwater welder who told me they didn’t need a retirement plan because they were almost guaranteed to die on the job.

I guess that’s one approach to longevity risk.

Early retirement remains an option

Personally, with each year that passes I am less worried about stock market risk.

That’s not to say that I don’t care about my investing returns or the next bear market. Of course I do.

The problem is that if that’s my only concern, then I’m leading myself down a path of wanting to save not 25 times my annual spending to retire, as per the famous 4% rule, but perhaps 33 or even 40 times that amount to feel more secure.

These days I’m more concerned about the opposite danger:

  • What if I wait until I’m 58 to retire, and then find my health is completely wrecked?
  • What if I miss the next decade of my children growing up whilst I’m in the office?
  • What if I drop dead before I hit my number?

Sure, we all have to accept there are risks in life.

But if you’re striving to stash enough in investments to take a punt at early retirement, then you might try to mitigate the worst of these other risks too.

For example, if I’ve hit the point where my annual spending is equivalent to 4% of my assets and yet I choose to delay retiring for another five years to bring that down to 3%, am I really taking the less risky option?

It all depends what kind of risk I care most about.

One risk to rule them all

You cannot negate every financial risk out there. Instead, you must figure out what most matters to you.

Is it retiring with the (near) certainty that you’ll never run out of money?

Or perhaps you’re less bothered about never needing to work again  – rather, you just want to know that you’ve got enough invested to cover the bare essentials if you do lose your job.

Plan accordingly.

Or maybe the objective is to retire quickly, maybe before your kids move out, or whilst you’re still fit enough to hike around the world?

In that case it might be worth modelling a higher withdrawal rate – knowing you might have to go back to work one day – in order to experience your once-in-a-lifetime adventure.

I can’t tell you what retirement target is right for you, how much you need invested, nor the rate you should be withdrawing it at. (Though I know a guy who can help you with that.)

Nor can I tell you that you need to retire at 40, or that you should eat nothing but beans and rice to free up more cash to pay off your mortgage.

I’m just saying don’t lose sight of everything else in your life in pursuing a narrow financial goal.

That seems to me to be the biggest risk of all.

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Gold GBP: historical asset class returns

Getting a grip on asset class behaviour can be hard when there’s a fire hose of data gushing in from all angles, often from sources unknown, typically quoted in nominal US dollars (USD), and sliced and diced to suit the author’s purposes, not yours.

So today we’ll try to swim against the tide by posting the long-term numbers for gold since 1900 – priced in pounds, fully cited, and accounting for inflation.

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