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Watch out for the capital gains tax turnover trap

A funny meme image to illustrate the CGT reporting trap

Long story short: This post won’t apply if you invest entirely within ISAs and pensions. Try to!

Most people rightly believe capital gains tax (CGT) is not a tax they’ll pay.

Buy-to-let landlords may face a CGT bill when they sell up, due to the size their one-off property gains.

But private investors in shares and funds can usually buy and sell within tax shelters – ISAs and SIPPS1. This avoids CGT altogether.

By using shelters you also sidestep the hassle of reporting to HMRC all your trades and profits.

The ability of ISAs and pensions to swallow your cash contributions like Pac-Man coming off a crash diet means even the mildly wealthy need not pay CGT.

Okay, so you may have too much money to shovel it all into tax shelters in a particular year. An individual’s pension and ISA combined can take as much as £60,000 annually though2, so even for moderately high earners, this usually only happens with an inheritance, a bonus, or when a bank heist pays off.

Once your allowances are used up, you may decide to invest in shares and other assets in unsheltered accounts. Cash in the bank is paying diddly, after all.

Fret not!

Paying CGT on future gains is still far from inevitable.

Gimme unshelter

For one thing you can offset some capital gains with losses. (And if you never have any of those then you’ve little to glean from us!)

There also exists a fairly generous annual CGT allowance. As I write it’s £12,300 in total realised capital gains in a year.3

If you have unsheltered shares, funds, or other taxable assets and they go up in value, you can exploit your CGT allowance to defuse your gains over one or more years by reducing your holding piecemeal.

It’s a faff and when markets rise quickly you can be left with a lot of defusing to do. Let’s file that in the Nice Problem To Have folder.4

Always use tax shelters to the fullest extent possible – even if you believe you’ll never exceed your annual CGT allowance – because, well, you never know.

I have an unsheltered holding that has gone up ten-fold in barely five years. At the current pace it’s going to take me until my sixties to defuse it.5

The CGT allowance could be reduced or scrapped, at some point. We shouldn’t take it for granted.

For now though, CGT is an optional tax for most people, at least with some forward thinking.

Sympathy for the Devil

All that preamble is a reminder as to how CGT works – a gentle reassurance.

Because like those teens in a horror movie who arrive at an abandoned campsite with beers, bikinis, and a fatal disdain for the ravings of a madman who warned them not to sleep overnight at Lake Morte…

…there’s a trap!

As pitfalls go, it’s very minor. Nobody will lose a limb. Possibly not even any money, depending on how penalty-happy HMRC is.

But it’s still something to be aware of.

Here the crucial section from the official guidance:

You do not have to pay tax if your total taxable gains are under your Capital Gains Tax allowance.

You still need to report your gains in your tax return if both of the following apply:

  • the total amount you sold the assets for was more than 4 times your allowance
  • you’re registered for Self Assessment

The trap, you see, is a reporting issue, rather than an issue of taxes you’re mistakenly evading.

Harlem shuffle

At the time of writing the CGT allowance is £12,300.

This means that if you sell ‘chargeable’ assets that in total are worth more than four times the allowance – £49,200 – in a year, then you should report all your taxable gains that year to HMRC.

That is assuming you’re registered for self-assessment tax returns, which I’m confident most people who find themselves in such a position will be.

The first thing to note is that you don’t have to have breached your CGT allowance for the sale(/s) to be reportable.

If you sold an unsheltered shareholding you bought for £50,000 for £50,001 – a mere £1 gain – then you should report the trade to HMRC on the relevant supplemental pages of your tax return, because you’ve disposed of more than £49,200 worth of chargeable assets.

Even more slippery, it’s the ‘total amount’ that matters.

Let’s say you only have £5,000 in your non-ISA dealing account. You use that money to day trade, because you’re a silly billy.

You’d only have to turnover your portfolio every ten weeks or so – in terms of total sales – to again breach that total disposal limit of four times the allowance in a year.

Turning over a portfolio like that is quite easily done if you trade a lot – and especially if you’ve more than my illustrative £5,000 in play.6

A platform like Freetrade7 with its zero commission makes manic trading much more practicable than in the old days, with only stamp duty and spreads still payable on each trade.

So you can easily see how a trigger-happy trader could get to the point of having to show their workings to HMRC on a tax return.

Wild horses

In my experience very few people know about the four times reporting clause.

Indeed I once spoke to a very senior figure in a Fintech firm that was moving into share dealing who had no idea it even existed! (I was querying him about his plans for helping clients with any tax reporting, which is often still poorly done by platforms.)

What would happen to you if you breached the limit and didn’t report the relevant disposals to HMRC?

I’ve no idea. I’m not a tax expert or an accountant.

I can’t recall hearing about anyone getting into trouble. If you know differently, please comment below.

However a good rule to live by is Don’t Piss Off The Taxman. Personally I live by the letter of the tax law. I need my beauty sleep.

Easily the best course of action is to do your investing within ISAs and SIPPs. The paperwork and record-trawling required to report a string of trades for CGT purposes is tedious in the extreme.

It could be even worse if you haven’t kept your own records. You might discover your broker has deleted the old details of your trades. (I’ve seen this happen after platform mergers.) Without your own records you’ve yet another problem to deal with.

If you have sizeable sums that need investing outside of tax shelters, then the reporting rule is another (minor) thing to keep in mind when you decide how and what to buy, and when to sell.

  1. Self-invested personal pensions. []
  2. Simplifying in the case of pensions, where for example limits are determined by your earnings and prior contributions. []
  3. In the UK, ‘gains’ means you actually sold the asset for a profit – as opposed to simply owning something that is showing a paper profit. []
  4. One snag with this strategy is if you become a forced seller – perhaps because a company you own is taken over and your shares are bought for cash. This can crystalize a CGT liability that you had planned to defuse over several years. Annoying! []
  5. Again, the Nice Problem To Have folder tends to fill up quickly when you’re making capital gains. []
  6. Cover your ears, but my *sheltered* portfolio turnover is approaching 400% this year! Remember, unlike my co-blogger The Accumulator, I’m a crazed active investor. I don’t recommend it for most. []
  7. Affiliate link. []
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  • 1 Charlie October 29, 2020, 12:49 pm

    For those who do need to calculate CGT I came across this tool to help. It also handles the tricky rules around sales + repurchases within 30 days:
    http://www.cgtcalculator.com/

  • 2 SidP October 29, 2020, 3:00 pm

    Hello,
    Been lurking around Monevator for a while now and working towards my own FI journey! Your site and the experience you share are quite motivating for many of us aiming to achieve FIRE.

    Speaking of CGT on disposals, Is it true that the dividends (hypothetical) from an Accumulation unit (Say Vanguard LS 80) held in a non ISA/SIPP wrapper have to be reported to the taxman via self assessment? For a long time, i had believed that wasn’t the case but seems like we do have to report it as part of the £2000 tax free dividend allowance?

  • 3 Tom October 29, 2020, 6:01 pm

    Chartered Accountant here (by qualification)… had no idea about the 4x allowance reporting requirement… just updated my various files of the back of reading this, thank you very much!

  • 4 The Investor October 29, 2020, 6:59 pm

    @Charlie — Thanks, I’ll check it out.

    @Tom — Haha, you’re welcome.

    @SidP — Really glad you’re finding the site helpful. As for the tax situation, I’m afraid that yes, there is tax to be paid although you’re far from the only person who isn’t sure about it!

    See this article:

    https://monevator.com/income-tax-on-accumulation-unit/

  • 5 Seeking Fire October 29, 2020, 8:43 pm

    Very good article. Diffusion of CGT has been a perennial issue for me for the last few years – tiny violin is ok. The issue has been in some cases finding an investment, which correlates strongly to what I held previously when utilising the 30 day rule . Bond etf’s easy. VGLS100 not so easy. I was aware of the reporting rule and tbh cannot think of a reason for it beyond the tax man becoming aware that you may be someone worthwhile being of interest to them, which isn’t particularly comforting not because you are doing anything wrong but it might be a pain to deal with an investigation. I would be happily dissuaded that that isn’t the reason for this rule if anyone else has a different view

  • 6 Jonathan B October 29, 2020, 11:17 pm

    I have had to deal with CGT recently – my deceased mother’s home sold for well above its probate value following a bidding war, and she happened to die on a day when her shares were at the bottom of a temporary dip. I am now more determined than ever to keep our own tax positions simple, with investments liable to CGT within ISAs. The process of waiting for each year’s allowance to move cash (particularly that acquired due to the above inheritance) does mean we have more building society savings than ideal, but at least with current interest rates we are less likely to exceed the allowance not needing reporting.

  • 7 Milo October 30, 2020, 3:25 am

    Hi everyone,

    Capital gains tax is something that is something I think I might have to face, I wonder if anyone has more experience and could tell me what they might do in my situation.

    I am originally from Jersey CI, in which there is no capital gains tax. I have lived in London, and now live in Hong Kong. Since moving to Hong Kong I have started investing 180,000HKD (approx £18,000) p/a in VWRL and VAGP (80/20) using interactive brokers. I simply buy GBP, buy the ETF’s on Interactive Brokers and leave it there.

    Question 1: Is this a good way to start my passive investing journey?

    I expect I will at some point want to move back to the UK in the future. This could be in England or it could be Jersey. It will depend on the future!

    Question 2: With this possibility, is there anything I should be doing in regards to tax in the future? I am quite naïve, I think, when it comes to the complexities of long term gains. Any advice on thinking ahead would be greatly appreciated.

  • 8 persimmon October 30, 2020, 3:31 pm

    Is CGT payable on the estate of a deceased person ? I thought it only applied to someone still alive .

  • 9 Jonathan B October 30, 2020, 5:10 pm

    @persimmon, unfortunately (if you are the executor) yes. So gains during the period of administration on property or investments (outside ISAs) are taxable. The relevant information is in HMRC SA905 Notes, you may also need to consult SA950 Notes on wider taxation of periods of administration.

    @Milo, sounds to me that you are in a specific situation needing expert advice. You don’t have access to shelters such as ISAs unless/until you are a UK taxpayer. Unless you have a ready source of cross-border tax advice, it sounds to me that it might be easier to invest in Hong Kong, then when you leave cash everything and pay any tax due there and start again in the UK/Channel Isles.

  • 10 DavidV October 30, 2020, 6:43 pm

    @persimmon Unfortunately estates are liable to CGT, although the Annual Exempt Amount is still available to them. This is different from interest and dividends for which estates have no tax-free allowance. If an estate only earns interest, and no dividends, and either the interest or tax, sorry I can’t remember which, is under £100, I understand that this is disregarded for income tax.

  • 11 Kraggash October 30, 2020, 7:08 pm

    @Seeking Fire
    For your ’30 day rule’ problem, it is handy to have a spouse hanging about. Transfer holding to spouse, they sell, you buy back. No 30 day delay needed.

  • 12 Boltt October 30, 2020, 8:02 pm

    Can you avoid the 30 day rule by – buying on day N and then selling the day N+1?

    Obviously you need spare cash…

    B

  • 13 Krage October 31, 2020, 1:42 pm

    One question, could someone answer please? How to report all those transactions for Joint Account(withe the spouse)? Twice? Split in half?

  • 14 Naeclue October 31, 2020, 9:00 pm

    @Seeking Fire @Kraggash, another option is to sell and buy back in an ISA or SIPP. To make space in the tax shelter, sell something and buy back outside the tax shelter. Obviously you should try and pick something that minimises trading friction, such as fund with no spread in the buy/sell price or an ETF with a very low spread.

  • 15 beeka November 1, 2020, 2:56 pm

    Unless things had changed, I thought the CGT on death was more nuanced: if the person sold something for a gain then CGT would be payable but that anything liquidated by the estate would not… so an executor might have to figure out what is due on a day-trading portfolio but a Warren Buffet-style buy-and-hold approach would be simpler to manage.

    This oddity was highlighted to me by an advisor when I was deputy for my grandfather. I am reminded of it whenever the discussion on here turns to inheritance tax, as I believe dead people should get to choose how they distribute their wealth (i.e. 0% IHT)… but don’t see why they should enjoy CGT breaks.

    @SidP Managing dividends within accumulation funds made me change to income funds outside of ISAs. I did remember to take the dividends into account (on which I had already paid tax) when considering the gain on selling… so the effort was worth something.

  • 16 DavidV November 1, 2020, 8:40 pm

    @beeka Any outstanding tax liability incurred during the deceased’s lifetime, either income tax or CGT, has to be settled by the estate, as you say. However, I was talking about CGT incurred by the estate itself. This was potentially an issue with my late mother’s estate. She left some Dairy Crest shares, which were compulsorily acquired for cash by Saputo during the Period of Administration. The acquisition proceeds were higher than the valuation at date of death, hence there was a capital gain which I, as executor, could not avoid. Fortunately, it was well below the Annual Exempt Amount so her estate did not have to pay any CGT. (It did have to pay income tax on the interest and dividends that continued to accrue after her death.)
    Retained shares or other assets that are beqeathed directly to a beneficiary do not incur any CGT until the beneficiary sells them. The tax liability is then on the beneficiary. It is calculated with reference to the value at the date of death.

  • 17 Seeking Fire November 2, 2020, 12:46 pm

    @Naeclue /@Kraggash – thank you both for your helpful comments. Yes I’ve been using spousal transfers for this purpose too. Unit trusts are more of a pain than etf’s.

  • 18 Tony November 2, 2020, 2:42 pm

    Re Estates and CGT: persimmon and beeka, already explained by others now but IHT is applicable on and subject to the estate (date of death) value. Unrealised CGT gains by the “deceased” are wiped out. CGT payable only on later disposals by the Executor or a beneficiary. The unfortunate scenario Jonathan explained only matters if gains arise upon a later sale, outside the annual allowance, whether by the Executor or any beneficiary to whom it’s transferred. If the CGT (death) acquistion value was materially lower relative to after that date, if asset prices are rising, if the holding value is such CGT is likely to arise, above the annual gains allowance, one mitigation option to avoid CGT is selling entirely fast. Or sell and rebuy 30 days later or later still. If a disposal is prudent for that reasons, relative to its own merits. But yes it is not ideal for an estate where the Executor plans to sell the holdings at some point, or for a beneficiary on an in specie transfer, as you want the acquisition cost for CGT to be as high as possible.
    Do HMRC know if you don’t report CGT gains or total disposals above £49,200pa? I don’t know. Can they identify your share purchases thru a platform from the SDRT paid and know you should be declaring dividends? They will know what past dividends you’ve declared and can roughly estimate a total shareholding value. If you’ve reported taxable gains in the past on disposals of part of a holding, you’ve also left a footprint. If reported dividends vary materially in a normal non-Covid year, without your reporting disposals above the reporting limit, it may well be picked up by their Connect system. So like the writer, I too prefer to stick by the rules. Life’s too short and it’s never wise to leave a footprint/evidence of any lack of legal compliance.

  • 19 beeka November 2, 2020, 4:46 pm

    Thanks for the clarifications… I now see the distinction being made: the shares would have been valued at death and then tax due on any increase since then. With rules this intricate, it does make you wonder how normal people are meant to follow them 🙂

  • 20 Jen November 20, 2020, 2:10 pm

    Hello all, Apologies if the answer to this is obvious but I am new to CGT! I have read that you can “Bed and ISA” a taxable position, but my ISA is full so am I allowed to swap positions between my taxable account and my ISA?

    My situation in full :

    I have a gain of circa £8k on IWDG (its the global tracker hedged to GBP) that I would like to claim as my CGT allowance this year, and ideally keep a similar position in the market (ie a GBP hedged global tracker). As far as I can tell my provider IWeb doesn’t have another global tracker hedged to GBP that I could buy after selling IWDG. My ISA at Broker 2 has also been fully subscribed this year so I cannot immediately rebuy in ISA. I also do not want to open a new account at a new brokerage because it takes a long time for it to be approved by my work compliance. I have one further constraint that I am not allowed to sell any funds within 90d of purchase due to my work compliance rules.

    Am I correct in understanding that my options are:
    1) Sell IWDG, then wait 30d and rebuy in my iweb account (take the risk that the price increases in the 30d)
    2) Sell IWDG, then buy an unhedged global tracker in my iweb account (take the GBP exposure for 3 months until I am allowed to sell and buy IWDG again)
    3) Sell IWDG, then buy an unhedged global tracker in my iweb account. In my ISA at Broker 2, sell an equivalent amount of unhedged global tracker and buy IWDG hedged global tracker after it settles (take the risk that price increases over the few days of settlement but hopefully small)

    Many thanks!

  • 21 Jason March 4, 2023, 7:35 pm

    Hi, I was just explaining about this to a family member, revisited this article to check my facts and realised that presumably the significant changes to CGT tax free allowance dropping to £6,000 in 23/24 and £3,000 in 24/25 would feed through to the 4x allowance reporting rule. I wanted to flag that it might therefore be worth updating this article with at least a health warning!
    Separately, I’ve been a lurker since 2014, first time poster – thanks for all the work and nine years so far of compounding gains!

  • 22 The Investor March 4, 2023, 9:24 pm

    @Jason — That’s a very good point, cheers for coming back and flagging. Now I’ve finally got rid of pretty much all my unsheltered stuff (unlisted/EIS not included) my eye has drifted off the ball.

    I wonder if there’ll be some clarification on or changes to the 4x rule, they are going to end up creating a lot of extra paperwork for themselves and everyone else with this. 😐

    Thanks for the kind words and for sticking with us!

  • 23 The Investor March 6, 2023, 3:22 pm

    @Jason — Just an update that the government has confirmed that there’s now a fixed reporting limit of £50,000 when it comes to annual Capital Gains.

    See: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/reducing-the-annual-exempt-amount-for-capital-gains-tax

    We’ll look to update this article post 6 April 2023 with the new regime.

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