New contributor The Realist makes the case for a ‘When I Die’ file that gathers all your worldly financial, er, gumf in one place. Your heirs will thank you. Especially if you remember to tell them where to find it in advance…
Who wants to spend whatever free time is left after work, sleep, feeding children, transporting children, and cleaning up after children… thinking about how someday those children may find themselves struggling to unpick our finances when we depart?
I know I don’t.
I can barely find the time to watch the Formula One from two days ago on record – probably after I’ve already found out the result through some pesky algorithm. (Do better, artificial intelligence!)
However if my beloved sport is sometimes lampooned as a procession, then the same might be said about life.
By which I mean it’s only a matter of when, not if, we shuffle off this mortal track. And there’s no pause or rewind button to postpone the inevitable.
Will you, won’t you?
Statistically speaking, death is pretty likely. Studies show that 100% of humans participate in the endeavour at some point.
Oh well, when it’s your turn you won’t care what happens afterwards, right?
Wrong. Anyone who has written a will has already realised this – and thought about what they’d like to have happen when there are no more pit stops left to take.
Your will (‘and testament’) is the starting point for whoever will deal with the aftermath of your passing.
A will is legal document that outlines how your assets – money, property, possessions – should be distributed after your death.
Wills also enable you to appoint guardians for your minor children, and to name an executor to manage your estate. They can be written with a local solicitor or even online with services such as Farewill.
If you have no will then stop reading and go and get one. I’ll still be here when you’re done.
Got a will? Good stuff.
But that’s not quite the end of the story.
Because the reality is that while having a will is great in theory – in practice dealing with your estate can still be tricky for those left behind, even with a will in hand.
The Grey Box
Life is full of surprises.
In our family we expected the infirm, sedentary, eight-years-the-senior mother-in-law to go first. The younger, fitter, active father-in-law would surely only follow her some immeasurable rounds of golf later.
Forces at play in 2021 had other ideas.
Covid, specifically. You may have heard of it.
My wife is an only child. So with my mother-in-law unable to offer much assistance, it fell to my wife and me to deal with the aftermath of everything that comes with the passing of a parent.
You’d need to be a Zen master to find much to smile about at a time like this.
Nevertheless we did run into one heartening provision that significantly altered the trajectory of much that was otherwise flying towards the proverbial fan.
Enter: The Grey Box.
We called it The Grey Box not because its contents were shrouded in a swirling fog of mystery, but because it was, well, a grey box.
A grey metal box as it happens.
And inside this box was a ‘When I Die’ file that made everything much easier.
Everything you need to know but were too afraid to ask
Sometimes called an ‘If I Die’ file, I’ve removed the implied jeopardy of the situation and will refer to it as a ‘When I Die’ (WID) file from here on.
My father-in-law was an accountant by trade. If I had to describe him in one word it’d be ‘organised’.
And by foreseeing the need for – and organising – his WID file to the future benefit of his family, my father-in-law made dealing with his affairs much easier.
You see, estate management – particularly if a death is unexpected – is challenging.
Financial gifts of inheritance steal the limelight. But being informed by the recently departed about what to sort out and where it can be found might be a greater gift.
Let’s talk about sex
Okay, not the mid-article interlude you were expecting!
But it’s relevant, because studies over the past two decades have found that Britons would rather talk to their family about sex than money matters.
Yep, we’re more likely to discuss an ex-partner’s foot fetish than an ex-employer’s defined benefit pension scheme.
Unless I’ve lived a particularly sheltered life though, only the latter is likely to be of interest to my family once I’ve sidled off to the Pearly Gates.
So let’s talk more about personal finance, eh?
Would I die to you
Your WID file should contain everything that your loved ones will need to make sense of your financial life when you move on.
As a starting point, your WID should cover the following areas.
Personal details – Obvious, maybe. But perhaps there’s a legal middle name you have never admitted to, or an annulled marriage from your youth where you briefly had a different name? This could matter when your executors are making filings or searches on your behalf.
Will and estate information – Either a copy of your will, or details of where it’s kept.
Insurance – A full list of insurances held is vital. These will either need to be cancelled, or else they may be due to payout in the event of your death. (Perhaps instructions on where to find the ten-year warranty for that air fryer you’ve promised to your brother-in-law might also come in handy?)
CV – Or rather, a complete list of your employment history. You didn’t know that Dad used to have a night job stacking ice cream boxes? No, neither did we. But there could be a forgotten pension associated with it somewhere.
Pensions – Since the rollout of workplace pensions, the number of individual pension pots held by individuals has increased. Be sure to list what you have and who manages it, plus any benefits that may be due to payout now you’re not here.
List of accounts – This is where it gets trickier. As a minimum, include all financial organisations where you’re a customer and detail the account types you hold with each. Account numbers will also help.
Passwords – Do not include your little black book of pin numbers. Storing them alongside account information is a huge risk in the event of theft. Instead, use a password manager or as a last resort, a coded but decipherable message as to where the critical passwords can be found. UPDATE: Reader @DavidV has noted in the comments that you should not access digital accounts of the deceased held solely in their name, as this may be a breach of the Terms and Conditions and also may not be legal. See comment #2 below and this guidance from the Bereavement Advice Centre.
Property deeds – Murphy’s Law dictates that shortly after you’re gone, next door’s fence will blow over. Or is it your fence? At least when armed with the property deeds your executors can have a sensible discussion.
Debts – Loans, credit cards, and mortgages. Your executors will assume responsibility for settling these as required.
Important contacts – Numbers and email addresses for the family solicitor, accountant, work colleagues, and your distant cousin Andrew in Australia. Anyone who should be informed – or you want informed – in the event of your passing.
Funeral arrangements – It’s becoming more common for people to plan their own funeral whilst alive. Perhaps your family are not aware you did? This is a good place to keep the relevant paperwork, just in case.
Any other pertinent information – Include personal wishes that may not be covered elsewhere. (You want your ashes sent up into the atmosphere in a giant Roman candle? Who knew!)
LPAs – Strictly speaking, Lasting Power of Attorney (LPA) documents would be called upon prior to your death. Keep them here though, because if a LPA is needed, you may not have the capacity to explain the WID file location or its contents anyway.
Easy access
Even the best WID file is useless if no one can find it. This is not the time for riddles or for turning the house upside down like some high stakes escape room puzzle.
Pick one or two trusted people. Tell them exactly where your file is. If it’s digital then tell them how to access it.
Any other business?
This was not an exhaustive list and your WID file is not a one-and-done project. It’s an opening framework to periodically update and tweak to suit your needs.
Life changes. Financial institutions get merged, assets move, and maybe you’ve decided you no longer want Hells Bells played at your funeral because your leather jacket hasn’t fitted you in years.
Thoughts for the future
Remember, the purpose of your WID file is to help those you love to deal with your loss during what will be a very emotional time.
So make it relevant to your life, and keep everything together in a single, logical place. Not at the back of the man-drawer filing system where you store those little coin-shaped batteries.
Understand that what makes perfect sense to you might look like a car crash to someone picking up your WID file for the first time.
Heck, it may even look like a car crash to you once you’re done compiling it. In which case perhaps it’s time to simplify your finances?
That pension pot with just £9,000 sitting in it from 2001 – can it be consolidated into your main SIPP? If so that’s one less financial institution that’s going to hoard a precious original death certificate for six months.
Estate planning isn’t just about paperwork – it’s an emotional act of care. By creating a clear, accessible file with fewer moving parts to deal with, you’re giving your loved ones the gift of less stress during an awful time.
True, there is an account tracing service run by the National Bereavement Service. But by being intentional now you’ll spare your executors a scavenger hunt through banks and brokers they’ve never heard of.
Positive thinking
I accept that creating your own Grey Box may sound a bit morbid. Nobody wants to think about this stuff.
However I’ve found that doing so can also be oddly comforting. A reminder that whilst we can’t control everything, we can cut down the chaos we’ll inevitably leave behind.
Also: your box doesn’t need to be grey! You can even give it a funny name if it helps.
Perhaps you should speak to your own parents about doing a WID if they’re still around, too? Here’s a nice project to keep them busy…
Better yet speak to anyone for whom you might be an executor.
Let’s all get our own Grey Boxes going. I know it’s hardly ideal dinner table conversation fodder. But one day you may be grateful you broached the subject.
Sex and pensions – you can’t discuss either when you or they are gone.
Grey matters
In our family we’re eternally grateful for our father-in-law’s Grey Box.
When he collated it, my father-in-law could have had no expectation that it would be called into action so soon. He was only 72 and full of life.
However its thoughtful contents were ready just when we needed them most.
This was possibly the greatest gift he could have passed on to us. With time and consideration, your own Grey Box might be the greatest gift you can give, too.
- More morbid: The Accumulator outlined his investing succession plan – starting with a love letter to the surviving partner – in a post for Monevator members.
Great read and one which feeds into my Security & Privacy Geekiness.
The perfect place to store file this is a Password Manager. You can store all your important logins safely! and also upload documents and the like mentioned in this article which are safely encrypted and backed up.
With a family account, those you love and trust can easily gain access to your information when the inevitable happens and also all stay safe and secure whilst living!
I would highly recommend anyone wanting to do what this article rightly suggests, does indeed use a Password manager to achieve it rather than a physical file or similar!
I’m actually writing a Digital Legacy article for a website I am starting where I try to keep people safe and more secure online. I am simple fed up of people being taken advantage of and scammed and want to help.
I’d be happy to share down the line once up and running if allowed and if anyone wants further information.
Take care all.
A very useful article and something we should all pay attention to. I have to disagree though with leaving password information behind, whether in a password manager or otherwise. This is almost certainly breaking the terms and conditions of the financial institution. The executor should access information about the account by the proper process of producing a death certificate and, if necessary, a copy of the will showing appointment as executor. The executor should in no circumstances access the deceased’s account him/herself using left-behind password details.
I am a born again annuitant and this is one of the reasons: my assets slimmed to one ISA, one house, one current account.
Other reasons: no longevity risk, no inflation risk, no senility scam risk, withdrawal rate over 5% plus rpi for a 64 year old.
Answered objections – loss of control of the preciousss. But as I need it to live on I was always a slave to the 4% rule
Legacy – the offspring get the house which is now absolutely safe from equity withdrawal, and the ISA can now be 100% equities and balloon like a balloony thing for their benefit
Bittersweet reflection – Monevator becomes less central to my life
Feel free to delete if off topic or you think I am shill for Big Annuity, but people really should be looking at this
@DavidV — That’s a very interesting point which I was not aware of. Googling around suggests you’re right. I’m going to add a note to the article referring to your comment, and will point people to it in Weekend Reading on Saturday also.
If any other informed readers have an colour/info on this please do chime in as I doubt it’s widely understood.
@DavidV @TheInvestor
Leaving the information is not against the terms. Accessing it would be where the problem arises.
You absolutely should access the accounts (Financial ones) via the proper channels. But you absolutely should still include them within a password manager.
Not only does it act as a list of all accounts and make access easier once granted, but there are a large amount of accounts these days which are not financial and may still require access for data retrevial or simply to delete the accounts. Items like; File Storage, Phone Accounts, Social Media, Gaming Accounts, Online Shopping, Email Accounts etc.
@TI (4)
I made the same point and more at comment #30 to TA’s article linked at the foot of the post.
@DavidV — Cheers, it’s got through this time.
Hello All, thanks DavidV for the caveat there. You are indeed correct and I agree that in no circumstance should an executor log in to a regulated account as a misrepresentation of the deceased.
However, for us there were many accounts that were joint, for which we needed logins. Some were financial, but most were household utilities, the weekly food order, the newspaper subscription (the list literally goes on and on). My Father-in-Law ran everything, to the point where my mother-in-law didn’t even know who provided their gas, let alone how to update a meter reading online. So naturally the log in to everything was his email/username and his password.
This is where a list of accounts and passwords was invaluable in our situation to enable the house to keep running and update contact details on accounts where my mother-in-law had become the sole account holder by default, but without the knowledge of how to access anything. I’m sure this is not unique, either.
Thanks all, for the read.
We have the Book of Knowledge. Originally titled The Book of Doom! Its actually a very non-descript A4 folder in the desk, which does need to go into a Grey Box. With so many bills sent by email now we have covered all our utilities, council tax etc as well as banks, pensions and premium bonds. The AA, insurance companies, our birth and marriage certificates. Certificates for electrical work, new windows and confirmation that our conservatory didn’t need planning permission. Planning permission for the new fence and a velux window in the roof. We are adding and updating each year. It’s uploaded to some cloud or another that I will need my husband to write down where it is. Meanwhile, our sons will have paper copies to work.
Thanks for this, this has been on my list for a while… Another thing worth noting would be details of any specialist hobby/ work type gear which might have value but would need to be sold through more specialist channels in the event of the owner’s death.
I really need to get to grips with password management. Can anyone recommend one that is very user friendly?
I have two other issues maybe you IT literate folk can help me with. 1. A couple of online shopping payment things (shopify/stripe) seem to have created an account for me that I never wanted. How do I delete those accounts and stop them auto filling my data?
2. Relatedly, I have a gazillion online shopping logins and passwords. Many of these are linked to an email account that has now vaporised – do I need to worry about these accounts or have they self deleted?
Should I worry about all the shopping accounts I still have?
Tremendous article and what great timing. Had lunch with my Dad yesterday and he shared with me all his spreadsheets detailing income and expenditure, list of gifts, allocation to PET and “regular out of income” and full draft IHT statement and calculation.
His desire not to give up his legacy to HMRC any more than necessary overwhelms any squeamishness about talking about death. And also having a peek at his investment income (more after tax than my last job) is a sobering reminder of the power of compounding over a long life, careful cash management and defined benefit pensions.
A quick assessment of his best next value-maximising scheme was clear. Keep living for as long as possible and I gave him this advice. When he stops following it, I do feel it is in good shape.
Quite envious of those of you with organised parents
It took me about two years to track down all my dads accounts (while he was alive). Luckily by the time he died it was pretty much sorted, one ISA, one savings account, one property.
Big IHT bill but I’m with TI on that, it really didn’t bother me. There was plenty left.
I agree with DavidV, it’s not really about the passwords.
I’d recommend thinking about it from a probate perspective. For that, the first step is a list of accounts. But if we’re talking about a couple, you may want to deliberately have one or two a) joint accounts or b) accounts that you know are below that institution’s probate limit (i.e. you know probate wouldn’t be needed to access the funds).
And yes, as per the article, please consolidate any small holdings – your executor will thank you.
Edited to add: an emergency fund is a good candidate for (b). It might be in the name of the person that’s died, but if it’s below the probate limit then the surviving member of the couple could access it with far less hassle than they would otherwise face.
From experience:
Have a joint current account and pay the bills from that.
Each have a primary credit card ( not a secondary card hanging off the first).
Make a list of subscriptions, including streamers, if these fall to just your account.
Buy a defibrillator and attach instruction ‘ just f*ing bring me back to life’.
Avoid beef wellingtons.
@vanguardfan – I am currently experimenting with bitwarden. I do hear the argument for an air gapped system, but also, passwords available on the move can be incredibly useful. It’s a trade off.
@optimistic – don’t pay your life insurance subs from a joint account (if you classify that as a bill) as there are IHT implications
@tetronimo – do you know what the probate limit is?
An air gapped system?? See this is the kind of stuff that means I never get around to sorting out a password manager. Is there something super simple to use for IT know nothings?
Re probate limit – it varies from bank to bank unfortunately. But if your beneficiaries aren’t broke it won’t be too much of an issue – all banks will pay funeral costs directly.
IHT bills are the biggie – for that you need an institution that participates in the ‘direct pay’ scheme with hmrc. Most seem to but it’s a good idea to check I think.
@Vanguardfan, @Rhino
Been using Bitwarden for about the last 10 years. Happy with it. Easy to use.
@Rhino here’s a link with some examples. As Vanguardfan says, it varies from bank to bank https://www.trustestate.co.uk/learn/do-i-need-probate-useful-bank-thresholds-to-know
I can’t vouch for the accuracy of that site, but I do know from direct experience that Santander had a high threshold (and good service) whereas NS&I had a very low one, just to give two examples of well known institutions.
A great Article and it has goaded me into preparing a long postponed WID file. Time to start!!!!
Just an initial thought. Our property and bank accounts are currently in joint names. Assuming I fall under the proverbial bus tomorrow , am I right thinking that my wife can continue as effective single property owner/account owner notwithstanding the need to inform the relevant bank and land registration authority. Hopefully my wife can continue to use our bank account immediately after my demise.
TP2
I am about to write a one-side-of-A4 for my widow-to-be explaining the logic behind our having two current accounts each and two joint accounts, including an explanation of why particular direct debits come from particular accounts.
To make it possible to explain this in one page I have substantially simplified our financial to-and-fros.
Then I’ll write an equivalent for our ISAs and SIPPs. And then …
But all attempts to get her to sit at a computer with me to be shown how our O/L finances go have failed. I have no answer to that.
My parents literally have an identical grey box to the one shown, and for the same purpose.
Missing a trick here TI, no ‘grey boxes’ for sale in the shop?
Death admin can take a long time, both my parents died within three months of each other but it took almost a year to finally resolve everything, and their affairs were not complicated. My mum, bless her, had the little grey locked box with all the details in divided files and it made the process so much easier.
One thing that needs to be checked, and if necessary, set up before bereavement is to have the facility for an APS with their ISA provider.
@vanguardfan – apologies, should have said a ‘computer not attached to the internet’ rather than ‘air gapped system’. Google ‘bitwarden’ – it’s a popular password manager software.
@VanguardFan
I use KeePassXC as my password manager. It is open source, ad-free, tracker free and the passwords are stored in a single file on your PC. (Just make sure you back that file up when you back up your PC!)
Have a look here: https://keepassxc.org/
Download it and have a play, it took a little getting used to but is perfect for me, I store all kinds of things in it besides just passwords.
If you don’t like it just delete/de-install it.
@Realist, @TI, terrific post (also great writing style)!! Thank you!!
My dad died this year. I was a co-executor with my mom. Our financial advisor, lawyer and funeral director (for the death certificate/notice) helped inordinately.
However, they still relied on esoteric information from us (ie great grand parent’s middle names)! My mother’s memory is becoming less reliable – our backup was an envelope (vital yet vastly inferior to a grey box) that my dad had given me – plus assorted scattered documents.
An aspect I would like to add is that so many of these documents hold keepsake value. My dad’s signature on his will, his old passports, the valuation certificate and receipt of the ring he bought my mom celebrating my birth, which now belongs to me.
I wish he’d included a letter or some photos. I wish our family was the kind of family open to seeking assistance from a death doula to plan for the end.
Finally I wish my parents were open about money. My dad left me money – this was a surprise. It felt like a beautiful final hug. And after his death, I learned the approximate figure held by my mother. It’s such a big number. I could have worried less about them (and honestly about my sister’s and my own future financial dignity).
Financial openness within a family can really help even before the ‘end’ (particularly because a parent’s memory suffers with age)!
@dearieme, I love your idea about leaving a document relaying the logic of your financial decisions. This is a gesture loaded with love!
@rhino thanks. I already have an air gapped system then-it’s called a notebook!
Can anyone convince me I need to change my current paper system for one on a computer (I’d need to leave the password to the laptop on paper anyway, with sufficient info for spouse to access the PW manager, so that would also need to be written down)
@all — Thanks for giving The Realist such a positive (and well-deserved!) welcome. More to come from them I hope!
@Harry — Hmm, that’s not a bad idea actually. 🙂 Some sort of standard file that had all the slots required to work you through filling / putting aside in the paperwork…
The trouble is (a) Monevator readers are commendably but legendarily tight (still a great many of you left to become members to support our work — please do so, lots of good articles behind the paywall too!) so DIY would rule the day and (b) we’d have to produce the product in advance (as opposed to on-demand like with the mugs and T-shirts) so there’s a big risk there. Plus I’d have to fill my cellar with gloomy grey boxes haha.
Sorry if I’ve taken this comment more seriously than you meant it! 😉
@vanguardfan – tbh, if a notebook meets your requirement then you’re probably good. Possibly you could think about keeping it in a safe? I have a small safe in my home for that sort of thing, it was pretty cheap and relatively inconspicuous.
For me I prefer a computer based solution to a paper notepad, mainly because I don’t want to type in passwords every time, I can copy and paste them. Currently I use an encrypted text file using a very niche format called ‘org-mode’ which works with an equally niche text editor called ’emacs’.
The issue with this is my wife can’t use it. Hence investigating bitwarden.
What I’m hoping this will give me is a single, shared access to account info that is accessible by both me (on my devices) and my wife (on her devices). Thats what I’m aiming for.
KeePass is mandated for me at work, so that’s a great suggestion from Jam (as I am already familiar with it) – I should have probably tried that first for personal use!
MSE has a really comprehensive page on this at https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/family/death-plan/ which also reminds not to breach any T&Cs by accessing others accounts.
Welcome to the fold! Great post. Can I also recommend the book “Your Last Gift: Getting your Affairs in Order” by Matthew Hutton? Covers many of the same themes. I actually had the audacity to give it to my parents after I’d read it.
One other suggestion is to write a letter or notes to accompany your will, to explain any decisions. Eg. explain why you’ve chosen a “trinket” to be given to someone or why a charity has been given a donation. I think the beneficiaries will be interested and it could avoid family arguments.
@TP2 yes, joint accounts or assets should be straightforward.
Broadly, I think most couples could benefit from considering which assets are: jointly held; held separately but below the probate threshold; held separately and likely to require probate; or in an entirely distinct category (pensions, insurance).
Ideally, you’d have enough in the first two categories to know that a wait for the grant of probate wouldn’t cause severe problems.
@VanguardFan #29
I think that a password manager (any password manager) will significantly improve your security on all your on-line accounts. I went from having good passwords to fiendish passwords. They generally all can generate passwords like this: “7#$koQ@e5#Qjfj4#RV#qR#gY$” with a single click. You will never need to remember them, re-use them, or re-type them, just the one password you use to sign into the system.
That extra security alone sells it for me.
I had a look at Bitwarden, it seemed perfectly fine, but I had a preference for KeePassXC, as it is open source freeware software instead of a propriety software and it avoids another credit card subscription too.
@jam – for keepass, is it possible/simple to achieve shared access to a single back end db? I.e. could it support the use case of a couple sharing access from different devices? I like the open source, self contained nature of it, but not sure it lends itself to the above requirement?
Also, if you want phone access, it looks like no de facto app exists, but several that appear to have been written by DIY enthusiasts? My worry there is that they won’t be stable over time..
For simplicity, would a shared and locked iPhone note with an innocuous title also do the trick? It would be accessible on any platform.
Late to the comments, but boy do i wish my father had done this.
He died out the blue just before covid, and things took years to resolve:
1. Will was so old it had a company listed on it that he no longer had, & no record of his new Ltd company that he had run for the last 15+ years.
2. The solicitor that held the will had been struck off for malpractise 20+ years earlier. Took a long time to track down the were the will had moved to.
3. Ltd company was v hard to value for sale as so much of it relied on my fathers skills & expereiences, but there were valuable physical assets too. Due to lockdown selling the company took several years.
All rather crazy. And I, his only child, was not listed in the will in any way.
@TP2
You might check whether your property is held as joint tenants as opposed to tenants in common with the Land Registry. I understand the surviving spouse automatically inherits the property under a joint tenancy. Whereas the share of the property held under tenants in common can be passed to whoever via a will.
@Rhino #36.
No, it is just a password manager and they don’t do device sharing themselves. I remember back when I was investigating it that it was explained this wasn’t a weakness as such, since you didn’t get locked in to one system.
The solution was to store the database file (this is encrypted) on Google drive, Dropbox, or similar and do your own DIY sharing.
I run a small Raspberry Pi desktop system and have the linux version of KeePassXC on there. I didn’t do anything fancy, just copied the database file over and it worked.
I don’t really use my mobile for much. Just a road rescue app and my BBC sign-on for listening to podcasts. Ergonomically they are a pain and I don’t regard android as especially secure, so limit my use. hope this helps.
@jam – yes that is extremely helpful, many thanks. I can see some further experimentation with keepass now, compare and contrast it with bitwarden. I think I chose bitwarden as it was the most generous proprietary offer on the ‘free’ tier.
As a general note personal insurance should be shared with immediate family, because if ever needed you might not be in a fit state to access it. The BBC carried a story this summer about a man badly injured in Thailand where his family could not find his insurance and were appealing for help to raise over £100,000 to pay his medical bills and bring him home: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy9d02z18weo
Azamino – very pertinent point for me as I’m going away next month and I have arranged a comprehensive travel insurance policy. However, as the policy and all correspondence is online, no one besides me knows about it (and will be unable to access my iPhone, laptop or any emails etc). As it’s a short-term policy, I hadn’t considered adding info to my “grey box” until now, so thanks!
Google has ‘Inactive Account Manager’. After 3 months of inactivity nominated people will be able download data you choose (e.g. all emails in Gmail, all files in Google Drive, all notes in Google Keep). You can also leave them a message. You could use this to keep a digital grey box in Drive. I think it’s also possible to get earlier access with a death certificate.
Apple has ‘Legacy Contact’ which will give the nominated people 3 years access to your account on production of your death certificate.
One more vote of confidence for KeePassXC – my family has used it for years now.
You can open the same password database in Keepass2Android on a phone, and store the password database in Google Drive – very handy for the least technical family members who loose their devices. I make a copy of the master database every quarter, upload it to Google Drive and use it from my phone when I need it.
It’s very easy to back up (you can put a pendrive in your grey box), unlike an online service
I was going to say this is timely, except I’m a couple weeks late!
But, my family having to untangle my financial life had also been a concern of mine after a health scare last year. Since then I have done a lot of consolidation and now just have: one personal current account, one stocks and shares ISA, one general investment account (moving to ISA each year), one cash ISA, one DC pension and two credit cards.
Even though the point was to make things easier for my loved ones, I am rather enjoying the simplicity and having fewer accounts to keep track on. I feel that bit lighter each month when I update my spreadsheet. Would recommend consolidating where possible.
Just because it hasn’t been mentioned – 1Password is a very popular commercial password manager for computers, phones and tablets, and allows you to share different groups of passwords/info with other users. I have one set I share with my wife, one set with my sister, etc.
As with any commercial product you pay money for some convenience, and have to hope they don’t mess it up in pursuit of investors’ desires. But I’ve been using it happily for many years so far.
If I was starting now I’d probably have a look at Apple’s password manager, because I and my wife use Apple devices. When I first wanted something like this it was too basic, but it’s improved a great deal over the past few years, I understand.
re password managers, I’d caution against putting login details for life changing amounts of money in the cloud / shared between devices. There have been numerous publicised security breaches of password managers. eg see https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/password-managers/millions-stolen-from-lastpass-users-in-massive-hack-attack-what-you-need-to-know. It seems an unnecessary risk to me – do you really need to access your investing accounts from any of your devices, at any time?
Personally, I keep logins for big-money investing accounts in KeePass on an old laptop that I never connect to the internet – its just my investing password safe. I think an equally secure option would be keeping the passwords written on paper and in a safe, or hidden in your house – eg on some post-it notes stuck in a nondescript book.
For my less important accounts – everyday banking, countless websites, I use Bitwarden, and that is shared across all my devices.