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Weekend reading: the UK investor’s unlisted edge

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What caught my eye this week.

Robinhood is planning to launch a publicly traded fund to enable US investors to gain exposure to unlisted companies like SpaceX and Stripe.

It reminded me that this is one area where we UK investors actually have it better.

Similarly, the news of another soon-to-be listed venture fund in the US from an outfit called Powerlaw. It’s an investor in the likes of OpenAI and bleeding-edge weapons maker Anduril.

These kinds of risky but potentially revolutionary startups are meat and potatoes for Baillie Gifford, the Scottish manager that runs investment trusts like Scottish Mortgage and Edinburgh Worldwide.

And to my mind the investment trust structure is the ideal vehicle for holding private companies for the long term. It sidesteps the liquidity issues you inevitably get with open-ended funds that hold illiquid assets. And a trust’s transparency requirements and independent board of directors mean – at least in theory – extra safeguards for ordinary shareholders.

Ironically though, a big reason the investment trust sector has been under pressure for the past few years is precisely because some trusts have large holdings in unlisted companies!

Even storied RIT Capital still trades on a discount to net assets of over 25%, largely on account of its private holdings.

And this despite a track record of private investments previously delivering good returns for the fund.

Trusts worthy

The absolute amounts managed by such trusts is tiny in the grand scheme of things. Mighty Scottish Mortgage – by far the biggest – has an asset base of just £15bn. Many others – such as titchy Augmentum – manage only a fraction of that.

It wouldn’t take much new money flowing in for such trusts to grow. In an ideal world I think they would be gently expanding, not facing existential pressures for survival.

Of course they must deliver returns that make holding the trust worthwhile in the long run. Discount risk is a headache for many everyday investors, too.

But the trusts do offer genuinely different exposure (compared to say a trust that owns FTSE 100 stocks) and I think we take them for granted.

Investing in private assets is not for everybody today. But there’s an argument to be made that one day it could be. Public markets globally are shrinking. We’ve also seen the rise of multi-hundred billion dollar unlisted ‘start-ups’ that most investors have zero exposure to – and hence do not benefit from.

Hopefully we’ll still have a vibrant investment trust sector to serve private investors if and when we need them!

Have a great weekend.

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Investing in the face of AI: beauties or the beasts? [Members]

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I don’t know about you, but when I’m confronted with a technology poised to vapourise vast tracts of the economy, to put hundreds of millions out of work, and ultimately to preserve the dregs of human society in a genius robot’s version of an ant farm, well… I look to profit.

What did you expect? This is Moguls. We’ll leave the penning of laments to the poets. Or at least to those people pretending to be poets by using ChatGPT.

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How Property Income Distributions (PIDs) are taxed

PID income is taxed at a different rate to ordinary dividend income

UK REITs and Property Authorised Investment Funds (PAIFs) pay a special kind of dividend known as Property Income Distribution (PIDs).

The UK tax system treats PIDs as property letting income. Consequently they are taxed at higher rates than ordinary dividend income.

Just to complicate matters further, REITs and PAIFs may pay a combination of PIDs and ordinary dividends.

The fund should make it clear how much you receive of each type on your dividend voucher.

As with ordinary dividends, the tax you’ll pay on your PID income depends on:

  • Whether you receive the income within a tax shelter (an ISA or a pension)
  • Your personal income tax rate

As always buying your property investments within a tax shelter is the way to go if you have the spare capacity for them.

Note: Specialist property index trackers (such as the iShares ETF with the ticker IUKP) funds pay ordinary dividends not PIDs. That’s because they are not UK REITs or PAIFs. They may receive PIDs from UK REITs that they hold. But by the time the income reaches you as a shareholder in the tracker fund it’s a dividend.

Property Income Distributions within a tax shelter

You do not pay tax on PIDs held within tax-sheltered accounts.

However, unlike ordinary dividends that are paid gross (that is with no tax deducted), PIDs are generally paid with 20% tax deducted.

This means that the tax already paid needs to be clawed back.

Your tax-sheltered account should be issued with a 20% tax credit associated with your PID income.

The broker that runs your ISA or pension should use this to reclaim the tax paid from the taxman.

Notice we said “should”.

Twice!

Keep your eyes peeled to ensure your PID tax is being reclaimed by your broker. Sometimes they forget.

It can take four to six weeks after the PID is credited to your account for the reclaimed tax to turn up as cash.

PIDs outside of tax shelters

Are you holding your PAIF and receiving your PIDs outside of a shelter?

Sounds painful!

And tax-wise it is, compared to if you’d held it within an ISA or a SIPP.

You’ll need to work out what tax is due on your PIDs and other share income when you submit your annual self-assessment tax return. (Avoiding all the resultant tedious paperwork is reason enough to justify an ISA.)

The first thing to know is that PIDs do not benefit from the tax-free dividend allowance.

Most UK taxpayers must pay the standard rates of income tax on PIDs:

  • 20% – basic rate (22% from 6 April 2027)
  • 40% – higher rate (42% from 6 April 2027)
  • 45% – additional rate (47% from 6 April 2027)

(Rates can vary if you’re a Scottish or Welsh taxpayer.)

You should receive your PIDs with a 20% withholding tax already deducted.

  • Basic-rate taxpayers have nothing further to pay
  • UK higher-rate payers owe HMRC another 20% of the gross amount
  • Additional rate payers must cough up 25%

If the 20% deduction means you’ve overpaid tax then you can claim it back from HMRC.

This may apply for instance if your PID income falls within your personal allowance, or within a sub-20% income tax band.

Do not record your PIDs on your tax return as ordinary dividends. HMRC’s tax return notes offer further guidance.

Incidentally, non-resident shareholders may be able to claim back some of the withholding tax that’s pre-paid on UK REITs.

That’s possible if you live in a country that enables you to claim back a portion of withholding tax on UK securities. See this explainer from HMRC.

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How to transfer a stocks and shares ISA

You’ve finally had it. Your existing stocks and shares ISA provider has dropped a fee bomb and you’re outta there! But perhaps you haven’t experienced the stocks and shares ISA transfer process before? Life is busy after all. And those filthy bloodsuckers probably won’t let you go easily.

So – in the age of enshittification –  just how hard is it to transfer your stocks and shares ISA?

Here’s our quick guide to dumping your ISA provider.

How to transfer a stocks and shares ISA

Dear ISA provider… it’s not me, it’s you

You normally have three options for extracting your ISA from the clammy hands of the unworthy:

1. Cash transfer

Your current platform sells your assets and transfers the cash directly to your new ISA provider. You choose new investments from scratch, making this option good for a brand new start, if things have got a little, ah, messy.

  • Your ISA’s anti-tax armour remains unbreached.
  • It should take two to three weeks to transfer, but it can take longer.
  • You are out of the markets as soon as your assets are sold and until you repurchase a fresh batch. That could go for or against you. No one knows.

2. Stock transfer

The existing contents of your stocks and shares ISA are transferred intact to your new provider. In other words, all your funds and shares are handed over without being sold or repurchased. This type of ISA transfer is often referred to as an in specie transfer, or as re-registration.

  • Again, your ISA’s tax status is not compromised.
  • It should take about four to eight weeks but you know how it goes.
  • You remain in Mr Market at all times and are subject to his whims.
  • You won’t be able to trade until the transfer is complete.

3. DIY sell-off

Of course, you can always flog your assets yourself and use the proceeds to open up a new account with another ISA provider.

  • Your ISA’s tax powers are very much kyboshed in this scenario. 1
  • Transfer out fees are avoided, though perhaps not account closure charges. Also note some platforms will pay your transfer fees to secure your business.
  • You’ll pay dealing fees to sell and buy anew.
  • You’ll be out of the market for a few days.

Stock transfer: The nitty-gritty

Personally, I would use a stock transfer all day long. The annual advance of a market can occur in just a few days and I’d hate myself if I missed out.

However, there are a couple of potential snag-ettes to watch out for with the ol’ in specie manoeuvre:

  • Contact your new provider and old provider to make sure they both play ball when it comes to in specie transfers.
  • Check that assets in your old ISA are available in your new one. If not, then talk to your new provider. Otherwise, incompatible assets are likely to be sold.
  • Different provider’s forms use different terminology to describe an in specie transfer. Check if you’re not sure which box to tick, and, whatever you do, avoid the box marked ‘liquidate’.
  • Some providers impose a transfer out charge per fund or line of stock – just one last pound of flesh before you leave. Some new providers will pay these fees for you. (Occasionally, they might be waived. It never hurts to ask!)

To do list

If your old provider’s ‘just one last chance’ pleas have fallen on deaf ears and you’ve identified your new dream partner then completing your stocks and shares ISA transfer isn’t much more daunting than filling in a form:

  • Complete the ISA transfer forms provided by your new platform.
  • Ask your new provider if it will cover your transfer out fees.
  • Tell your old provider to close your account once the transfer is complete. 
  • Cancel your old direct debit and relax.

That’s about all you need to know. I’ve got a couple of bullet points left in the tips-gun though so let’s fire ’em off:

  • Your new platform should tell you when your account has transferred.
  • You can transfer your current year’s ISA, although new money can only be added when the transfer is complete.
  • Transfers do not count towards your current year’s ISA allowance.
  • You can even partially transfer an ISA. List the assets you’d like to transfer, though note that your old provider can refuse a partial transfer. 
  • Document all your holdings (names, ISIN codes, quantities held) before you transfer. Take a screenshot of your holdings sitting in your old broker. This will come in very handy should any holdings go astray during the transfer.

That’s it. We’re done. Happy transferring.

Take it steady,

The Accumulator

  1. In other more boring words, the money you had tucked away in the ISA loses its tax protection.[]
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