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Weekend reading: Another question for you guys

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Good reads from around the Web.

Thanks to everyone who shared their responses to the new design tweaks here at Monevator. I’m pleased to say the consensus has been overwhelmingly positive.

Today’s Weekend Reading has a further experimental element.

I know! Exciting.

As part of his design feedback, reader Al went off-piste to suggest that when we link to external sites from Monevator, we should be opening such pages in a new browser tab or window.

This way you don’t navigate away from Monevator when you click through to an external article. Our site remains just where you left, it in the original tab. Al prefers this method, especially when browsing a bunch of Weekend Reading links.

From a selfish perspective as a website owner, this approach is far better for me, too, as I am less likely to lose you to a site I link to.

But when I learned the craft of blogging a decade ago, it was frowned upon as rude to force new windows on readers.

Al says times have changed. Mainly it’s down to all that tabbing, as opposed to the old way of opening new additional windows. Tabs are much less of a burden on the reader than windows popping up all over the place. The benefits now outweigh the costs, he says.

For today’s Weekend Reading, I’ve experimentally made all the links open in new tabs.

What do you prefer? Do you prefer this approach to clicking through to the new site and then (hopefully) using your browser’s Back button to return to Monevator?

Please let me know in the comments below.

Enjoy the links – there’s tons of good stuff today – and have a great weekend!

From the blogs

Making good use of the things that we find…

Passive investing

Active investing

Other articles

Product of the week: HSBC will pay you £200 if you switch to its Premier or Advance account, reports The Telegraph. There are hurdles: To get the full whack you have to stay for at least 12 months, set up standing orders, and register for online or mobile banking.

Mainstream media money

Some links are Google search results – in PC/desktop view these enable you to click through to read the piece without being a paid subscriber of that site.1

Passive investing

  • Stock market efficiency: Micro or macro efficient? – Mutual Funds
  • Jack Bogle: Champion of the long run – Wall Street Journal
  • Index funds help keep your returns on track – Guardian
  • Justify your Smart Beta methodology – ETF.com

Active investing

  • Investors should not write-off ‘bond proxies’ [Search result]FT
  • Why builders are a good bet after Brexit – ThisIsMoney
  • First UK VCT to offer a regular savings scheme – Interactive Investor
  • Funds with performance fees come under fire [Search result]FT

A word from a broker

Other stuff worth reading

  • Merryn S-W: Why we should all aim to die broke [Search result]FT
  • Here come the £5 plastic notes – Guardian
  • Some savers told they can’t hold SIPP money in fixed-rate bonds – Telegraph
  • One day you’ll be too old to manage your pension – Telegraph
  • Has London’s property bubble burst? [Search result]FT
  • Why Hong Kong cash buying London housing is not all bad – Guardian
  • What if you weren’t afraid? – New York Times
  • It’s a boy thing – 1843 Magazine
  • Why are so many BASE jumpers dying? – National Geographic

Book of the week: You have probably heard the unmistakable sound of an implement being drawn across a barrel here some weeks. Let’s face it, there are only so many must-read investing books, and I’ve only so much time to read them. But a new book from Charles D. Ellis – on index investing no less – will surely make the grade for all you passivistas out there. The Index Revolution: Why Investors Should Join It Now was published in the past fortnight. If you’ve read it, please give us a review below.

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  1. Note some articles can only be accessed through the search results if you’re using PC/desktop view (from mobile/tablet view they bring up the firewall/subscription page). To circumvent, switch your mobile browser to use the desktop view. On Chrome for Android: press the menu button followed by “Request Desktop Site”. []
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  • 51 rugbytrader September 10, 2016, 7:21 pm

    TABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTABTAB

    I hate, nay, loath sites that don’t open a tab when i click on a link, they are the devils spawn.
    Although, you quickly learn which sites still adhere to this abhorrent practice and right click to open a new tab.

    I’m glad you are catching up with the times

  • 52 SirGordalot September 10, 2016, 7:38 pm

    Another vote from me for the separate tab.

    Also, thanks for the slightly off kilter piece about how hobbies are (arguably) dying out now that we are monetising them as ‘side hustles’. It’s really good to have a few links to articles that aren’t just about SWR etc.

    Keep up the good work!

  • 53 Phil September 10, 2016, 7:44 pm

    I’ve always been told that forcing links to open in a new tab takes the decision away from the user – which is bad. People regularly request it though, mainly for external links.

    Apparently there’s also a a security risk to using target=’_blank’: https://medium.com/@jitbit/target-blank-the-most-underestimated-vulnerability-ever-96e328301f4c#.kvkzx3kr2.

  • 54 Peter Scarlet September 10, 2016, 7:56 pm

    I like the new “new tab” approach. Thank you.

  • 55 John B September 10, 2016, 8:09 pm

    New tabs good

  • 56 theFIREstarter September 10, 2016, 11:40 pm

    Hi TI,

    I was going to reply to Al on the thread the other day but seeing as you’ve asked I’ll do it here instead.

    I was also told when learning blogging and websites in general to always link by not opening a new tab/window. The reason being most (all?) browsers have the option to open links in a new tab anyway.

    In most laptop browsers you just right click then “Open in new tab”
    If you are using Chrome, you just hold Ctrl/Cmd and click on the link and it will open in the new tab, even easier (sure there are similar keyboard shortcuts on other browsers, probably exactly the same in fact)

    On mobile/tablets just press and hold on the link for about 1 second and you get an option to open in new tab.

    Hope that helps everyone out there who find the whole open in same window thing annoying for blogs that follow the “old way” of doing things.

    I always open in new tab/window for all internal and external links on my blog as that is what I have always preferred as a reader. OK so basing it on my sample of one was perhaps a silly move but judging by the above comments it’s not common knowledge that you can easily open in a new tab yourself anyway, and I think that is by far the most common behaviour nowadays since browsers have become “tab-able” as Al rightly pointed out.

    Cheers!

  • 57 Donald Close September 10, 2016, 11:50 pm

    I like the new tab version of links – very easy to return home, and I can keep the new tab open if I want to pursue that link further.

  • 58 Clive McGovern September 11, 2016, 9:37 am

    I vote for new tabs opening from links! Thanks for the blog BTW you do a great job.

  • 59 Planting Acorns September 11, 2016, 10:11 am

    Prefer ‘right clicking’ (holding down on tablet) to open tabs myself, although I can still do this so on the fence.

    Lot of comments today…have you considered a grouping of higher than 50?? I think you underestimate your popularity ;0)

    Loved the RIT piece…I can see there may be good times to get advice on how to plan my financial future…but ongoing advice into which actively managed funds to invest in?? Just don’t get it. My average cost of investing is 0.39pc including the platform

  • 60 Tim September 11, 2016, 11:06 am

    +1 new tabs, much better. 🙂

  • 61 European Passive Investor September 11, 2016, 12:57 pm

    Tab-ra-kadabra!

    Thanks & welcome to 2016.

    Sunny greetings from the Continent.

  • 62 cat793 September 11, 2016, 1:12 pm

    I am with Al – open new tab.

  • 63 dlp6666 September 11, 2016, 1:49 pm

    Another vote, please, for “clink on link >> new tab opened”, leaving main article intact.

    Thanks

  • 64 gadgetmind September 11, 2016, 7:37 pm

    If I want a new tab, then I hold shift as I click, but I have no objection to Monevator links opening one for me as I don’t want to leave. 🙂

  • 65 theFIREstarter September 11, 2016, 9:01 pm

    To the people who are saying to leave links as they were, to “leave the choice in user hands” I ask you this:

    When was the last time you got half way through a blog post and decided it would be a good idea to just navigate to a new post entirely (even one from the same blog).

    I can hand on heart say in 3 years of avid blog reading and probably tens of thousands of posts read and links opened, I have never once not opened in new tab.

    Further, it is clear that not everyone knows about the right click/ctrl/cmd+click thing. So for those say 10% opening in new tab all the time is an improvement.

    Just read the post about the music industry, very interesting. Although it probably should have just been called “interesting things Dave Grohl said”. He sounds like he has his head screwed on right and found out what his “enough” was early on in life. Maybe an interview for Monevator could be on the cards?

  • 66 The Investor September 12, 2016, 9:57 am

    @All — Wow, this one touched a nerve! Apologies for my senior linking practices to-date. 😉

    I think it’s a clear majority for opening links in a new tab, even if we assume that some who prefer the status quo haven’t voted. Also, people don’t seem to be distinguishing between internal and external sites, so it sounds like people want/expect all links to open in a new tab nowadays. (Not counting those who voted “No, I prefer to do it myself”, of course, of whom I am one. But we’re clearly outvoted here).

    It’s way better than me for a website owner, anyway. So a win win win lose. (Again, the lose reflecting the views of the minority who don’t want to lose the optionality).

    Obviously there’s well over 1,000 old articles with the old linking style in place. Will take a *long* time before they’re all shifted over, if ever. But we can make a new start from here.

    Cheers again to reader @Al for the suggestion, and to all readers who voted either way.

  • 67 theFIREstarter September 12, 2016, 11:31 am

    Hi TI,

    There is a simple jquery snippet that can just automatically make all links across your whole site open in new tab. I can send it across with some basic instructions on where to stick it, if you’re interested?

    I’ve emailed you the same question so just reply to me on that if easier.

    Cheers

  • 68 Ray Jardine September 12, 2016, 12:26 pm

    Please retain the new tabs.

  • 69 SDN123 September 12, 2016, 4:21 pm

    New “open in a new tab” interface is an improvement. Pls keep it 🙂

  • 70 Al September 12, 2016, 6:24 pm

    A victory for democracy. A victory for ordinary people. Thank you for listening Monevator. I trust we will all benefit from Tabxit for many years. I feel quite emotional…

  • 71 Alan September 12, 2016, 8:52 pm

    LOVE THE TAB FEATURE
    (I know upper case is shouting … but i love the tab feature) … ps love the new improved site.
    Thank you

  • 72 Michael September 13, 2016, 8:53 am

    Prefer the open in new tab. Hate the AVH thing that often blocks me from reading the site:-

    Access has been blocked.

    Your IP [104.238.169.151] has been identified as spam

    Protected by: AVH First Defense Against Spam

  • 73 Dave Smith September 13, 2016, 12:01 pm

    Doesn’t anyone use middle-click? That has for ages been what you use if you want a link to open in a new tab. Easier and quicker than right-click + menu, of shift-click or whatever. Regular left-click was always supposed to mean replacing the page you are looking at.
    But it seems the argument is lost, and now we have two kinds of links that look the same but behave differently. I would suggest either making all links behave the same way, or changing the look of external links, e.g. with an arrow symbol like they do on the BBC site.

  • 74 Dave Smith September 13, 2016, 12:11 pm

    I meant to add: middle-click (or other existing “open in new tab” options) have the advantage that they do *not* switch focus to the new tab. So, you’re looking at the Weekend Reading page, and you can quickly middle-click on all the interesting links, which then unobtrusively open in new tabs in the background, leaving you in the Monevator tab.
    With the new forced-new-tab mechanism, you are switched to the new tab, so have to navigate back to the Monevator tab and remember where you were.

  • 75 Gary Grand September 13, 2016, 1:11 pm

    Opening a new tab is the way to go, makes it much easier to go between site, came across this site a few months ago and have found it very helpful. Thanks

  • 76 ILiveOnTheWeb September 13, 2016, 10:36 pm

    Clicking links is one of the most fundamental ways of interacting with a browser. The user has a conceptual model of what happens when clicking a link and that is that it opens in the current tab/window. We can then choose whether we want to switch the current page or actually open in a new tab (middle click or right click open new tab) or even in a new window e.g. to put on a different monitor. Opening pages by default in a new tab takes this freedom away from the user and causes confusion.

    The so-called “new” behaviour of opening in a new tab is just a hack by website owners. I find it deceitful and in bad taste.

  • 77 The Investor September 13, 2016, 10:51 pm

    The so-called “new” behaviour of opening in a new tab is just a hack by website owners

    Clearly as you can see above this statement is not supported by the voting from actual readers. I’ve also had people asking for opening new tabs over email, where none have asked to keep the status quo.

    (And my view was more similar yours, until I was prodded by a reader! 🙂 )

  • 78 dlp6666 September 14, 2016, 9:29 am

    @David Smith

    Thanks for the info about the ‘middle click’ option (never knew about it before).

    I suppose, yes, the ideal option would be for any click on a link to replicate this ‘middle click’ routine of opening the new tab but NOT automatically diverting the reader away to it, letting them instead continue on the main page.

  • 79 Kraggash September 14, 2016, 10:49 am

    When there are a list of links, as long as it clearly states at the top what clicking does (‘opens in new tab’ or ‘opens in page’) I am easy either way. but a slight preference for ‘opens in new tab’. Sadly, it now has to state which it does, as web pages no longer go with a standard approach.

    When the links are in-line, or more imbeded in the text, I prefer it opens a new tab. Then I can easily go back to where I was reading on the original page.

  • 80 RetireJapan September 14, 2016, 4:04 pm

    Yes, please! Link -> new tab

    I never want to jump to a new site when clicking on a link 😉

  • 81 The Investor September 16, 2016, 9:13 pm

    @Michael — Just a note to say not sure what I can do about this. I had a bit of a Google and your IP does seem to be associated with some spammy-ness (presumably because of other activity at your ISP). But then my co-blogger The Accumulator said he had been blocked! Will poke about some more this weekend.

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