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		<title>By: Sraiya</title>
		<link>http://monevator.com/portfolio-diversification/comment-page-1/#comment-130193</link>
		<dc:creator>Sraiya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2012 20:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The simplest example of diversification is provided by the proverb :
&quot;Don&#039;t put all your eggs in one basket&quot;. Dropping the basket will break all the eggs. Placing each egg in a different basket is more diversified. There is more risk of losing one egg, but less risk of losing all of them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The simplest example of diversification is provided by the proverb :<br />
&#8220;Don&#8217;t put all your eggs in one basket&#8221;. Dropping the basket will break all the eggs. Placing each egg in a different basket is more diversified. There is more risk of losing one egg, but less risk of losing all of them</p>
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		<title>By: harry</title>
		<link>http://monevator.com/portfolio-diversification/comment-page-1/#comment-92728</link>
		<dc:creator>harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 11:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ T.I. - Thanks for the clarification. Quite a week to be pondering diversification!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ T.I. &#8211; Thanks for the clarification. Quite a week to be pondering diversification!!</p>
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		<title>By: The Investor</title>
		<link>http://monevator.com/portfolio-diversification/comment-page-1/#comment-92726</link>
		<dc:creator>The Investor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2011 10:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Harry - As you&#039;ve guessed, the performance of all Investment Trusts are correlated with general stock market appetite as well as with the underlying assets.

In the recent downturn, for instance, many real estate investment trusts fell far more than their underlying net assets implied, even after the big writedowns made on property values.

Bond ITs may be more stable, depending on exactly what they invest in. If it&#039;s corporate bonds and the like, this has equity-like correlation, too.

I still prefer property ITs (and big REITs like British Land) to OEIC funds (unlisted unit trusts), however, as the latter actually closed their doors and stopped investors withdrawing money at all in the downturn (due to their need to sell property to meet redemptions).

At least ITs gave you a choice of getting some money back, however unpalatable.

In my opinion most private investors only need government bonds in the bond section of their portfolio, and arguably UK investors just need gilts (assuming lots of diversification elsewhere). If desired, though, iShares ETFs provide one easy way to add European and US government bond exposure to these asset classes.

Gilts can be very practically bought and held in an ISA without using an ETF, and it may be cheaper and give you more of the benefits of the asset class more &#039;cleanly&#039; than using an ETF or an IT.

See this post: http://monevator.com/2010/12/16/buy-gilts-directl-or-invest-in-a-gilt-fund/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Harry &#8211; As you&#8217;ve guessed, the performance of all Investment Trusts are correlated with general stock market appetite as well as with the underlying assets.</p>
<p>In the recent downturn, for instance, many real estate investment trusts fell far more than their underlying net assets implied, even after the big writedowns made on property values.</p>
<p>Bond ITs may be more stable, depending on exactly what they invest in. If it&#8217;s corporate bonds and the like, this has equity-like correlation, too.</p>
<p>I still prefer property ITs (and big REITs like British Land) to OEIC funds (unlisted unit trusts), however, as the latter actually closed their doors and stopped investors withdrawing money at all in the downturn (due to their need to sell property to meet redemptions).</p>
<p>At least ITs gave you a choice of getting some money back, however unpalatable.</p>
<p>In my opinion most private investors only need government bonds in the bond section of their portfolio, and arguably UK investors just need gilts (assuming lots of diversification elsewhere). If desired, though, iShares ETFs provide one easy way to add European and US government bond exposure to these asset classes.</p>
<p>Gilts can be very practically bought and held in an ISA without using an ETF, and it may be cheaper and give you more of the benefits of the asset class more &#8216;cleanly&#8217; than using an ETF or an IT.</p>
<p>See this post: <a href="http://monevator.com/2010/12/16/buy-gilts-directl-or-invest-in-a-gilt-fund/" rel="nofollow">http://monevator.com/2010/12/16/buy-gilts-directl-or-invest-in-a-gilt-fund/</a></p>
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		<title>By: harry</title>
		<link>http://monevator.com/portfolio-diversification/comment-page-1/#comment-91484</link>
		<dc:creator>harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Portfolio Diversification - For a newcomer it&#039;s like doing a jigsaw.  I&#039;m collecting the missing pieces (of info) from behind the sofa one by one!! This article helps a lot. Read the &#039;money chimp&#039; article (eek!!!).

As a newcomer to DIY investing I try to use IT&#039;s in my SIPP but when asset allocation models refer to &#039;Bonds&#039; or &#039;Property&#039; are IT funds invested in these areas sufficiently non-correlated to count as the &#039;Bonds&#039; &amp; &#039;Property&#039; classes the models refer to or, should they be counted as equities?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Portfolio Diversification &#8211; For a newcomer it&#8217;s like doing a jigsaw.  I&#8217;m collecting the missing pieces (of info) from behind the sofa one by one!! This article helps a lot. Read the &#8216;money chimp&#8217; article (eek!!!).</p>
<p>As a newcomer to DIY investing I try to use IT&#8217;s in my SIPP but when asset allocation models refer to &#8216;Bonds&#8217; or &#8216;Property&#8217; are IT funds invested in these areas sufficiently non-correlated to count as the &#8216;Bonds&#8217; &amp; &#8216;Property&#8217; classes the models refer to or, should they be counted as equities?</p>
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		<title>By: My Experience of Index Investing &#171; Simple Living in Suffolk</title>
		<link>http://monevator.com/portfolio-diversification/comment-page-1/#comment-82801</link>
		<dc:creator>My Experience of Index Investing &#171; Simple Living in Suffolk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 13:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a bit. That lift compensated for the losses I took on the FTSE100, it was a confirmation of the value of diversification rather than a great [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Have You Experienced What Financial Freedom Feels Like? &#124; Personal Finance Firewall</title>
		<link>http://monevator.com/portfolio-diversification/comment-page-1/#comment-43751</link>
		<dc:creator>Have You Experienced What Financial Freedom Feels Like? &#124; Personal Finance Firewall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 16:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] without problem, are proving to be worth our time. My wife and I are also working really hard on diversifying our sources of income so we will never have to rely on a single job, and never be in a position where losing a job would [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] without problem, are proving to be worth our time. My wife and I are also working really hard on diversifying our sources of income so we will never have to rely on a single job, and never be in a position where losing a job would [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Real Assets</title>
		<link>http://monevator.com/portfolio-diversification/comment-page-1/#comment-6220</link>
		<dc:creator>Real Assets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Genuine diversification is becoming increasingly more difficult to achieve.  According to Bloomberg, &quot;the Standard &amp; Poor’s 500 Index, whose increase in the past three months was the steepest in seven decades, is rallying in tandem with benchmark measures for raw materials, developing- country equities and hedge funds. The so-called correlation coefficient that measures how closely markets rise and fall together has reached the highest levels ever.&quot;  The correlation between the S&amp;P 500 and the Reuters/Jefferies CRB Index increased to 0.74 in June according to Bloomberg up from the previous high of 0.66.   The correlations between the S&amp;P 500 and crude oil and emerging markets are also at or near record highs. 

Despite this data there are definitely asset classes in which investors can still get diversification benefits.    

Research by Agcapita Partners, a Canadian agriculture private equity firm, shows that one of the beneficial investment qualities of farmland in North America is that is has a very low (slightly negative =  -0.13) correlation to stock market returns.  In general, this has meant that by adding NA farmland into a stock portfolio you improved diversification benefits.  By way of example, when stock markets were falling globally in 2008, Canadian prairie farmland went up approximately 10% in value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Genuine diversification is becoming increasingly more difficult to achieve.  According to Bloomberg, &#8220;the Standard &amp; Poor’s 500 Index, whose increase in the past three months was the steepest in seven decades, is rallying in tandem with benchmark measures for raw materials, developing- country equities and hedge funds. The so-called correlation coefficient that measures how closely markets rise and fall together has reached the highest levels ever.&#8221;  The correlation between the S&amp;P 500 and the Reuters/Jefferies CRB Index increased to 0.74 in June according to Bloomberg up from the previous high of 0.66.   The correlations between the S&amp;P 500 and crude oil and emerging markets are also at or near record highs. </p>
<p>Despite this data there are definitely asset classes in which investors can still get diversification benefits.    </p>
<p>Research by Agcapita Partners, a Canadian agriculture private equity firm, shows that one of the beneficial investment qualities of farmland in North America is that is has a very low (slightly negative =  -0.13) correlation to stock market returns.  In general, this has meant that by adding NA farmland into a stock portfolio you improved diversification benefits.  By way of example, when stock markets were falling globally in 2008, Canadian prairie farmland went up approximately 10% in value.</p>
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		<title>By: Money Hacks Carnival #54 at The Penny Daily &#124; Money Hackers Network</title>
		<link>http://monevator.com/portfolio-diversification/comment-page-1/#comment-4343</link>
		<dc:creator>Money Hacks Carnival #54 at The Penny Daily &#124; Money Hackers Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Portfolio diversification posted at Monevator.com [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Portfolio diversification posted at Monevator.com [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hitch Me Up to That Bandwagon: Lending Club &#124; Personal Finance Firewall</title>
		<link>http://monevator.com/portfolio-diversification/comment-page-1/#comment-4309</link>
		<dc:creator>Hitch Me Up to That Bandwagon: Lending Club &#124; Personal Finance Firewall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] rate so being cautious will still reap benefits. The last thing I will mention about this is diversify. Don&#8217;t invest all of your money into one note even if it is the safest looking note in the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] rate so being cautious will still reap benefits. The last thing I will mention about this is diversify. Don&#8217;t invest all of your money into one note even if it is the safest looking note in the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Festival of Frugality #167</title>
		<link>http://monevator.com/portfolio-diversification/comment-page-1/#comment-4299</link>
		<dc:creator>Festival of Frugality #167</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Portfolio diversification is an important investment concept shown by Monevator. [...]</description>
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